[Greenbuilding] Old Nuclear Power Plants? RE: Give Me Your Old, Your Tired, Your Stinky and Energy Inefficient....

Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn info at ecobrooklyn.com
Sat Aug 11 14:28:37 CDT 2012


Nuclear power: centralized, expensive to build, expensive to run and
dangerous for thousands of years.

I don't care if nuclear created unlimited energy forever. The factors
above rule out even considering it for me. End of story.

Gennaro Brooks-Church
Director, Eco Brooklyn Inc.
Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA
www.EcoBrooklyn.com
22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231


On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Richard Garbary <richard6 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank goodness our provincial (Ontario) government put a halt to new
> nukes. It was projected it would cost $10,800 per kilowatt.
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> http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2009/07/15/204378/nuclear-power-plant-cost-bombshell-ontario/
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> I'm not so sure of the benefits of tankless electric. 10 to 20
> kilowatts of additional demand and mostly during peak periods sure
> puts a burden on an already stressed grid.  Conventional tank water
> heaters demand 1.5 to 4.5 kilowatts. Take the hourly consumption chart
> of an electric tankless household and replicate it a million times and
> I think the point will be clear. Some of my hourly consumption charts
> can be found here:  http://flatteningthecurve.wordpress.com/
> I would like to see the hourly charts from a tankless household.
>
> The costs associated with coping with demand loads from tankless water
> heaters is greater than the costs associated with thermal losses from
> tank type water heaters.
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> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Carmine Vasile <gfx-ch at msn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...lots of carbon-free energy will be available for at least 4 decades and
>>> tankless electric water heaters will continue to be the cleanest, most
>>> efficient way to heat water in on grids serve by these nukes.
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>> I don't know if you are being facetious here, Carmine, but since you
>> addressed this message to the three of us, I'll just say that I despise all
>> things nuclear even more than I mistrust energy efficiency. Figuring out how
>> not to need most of the electricity we now consume (to me) is a heck of a
>> lot easier than figuring out how to live with the consequences of nuclear
>> power for hundreds or thousands of generations.
>>
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