[Greenbuilding] Old Nuclear Power Plants? RE: Give Me Your Old, Your Tired, Your Stinky and Energy Inefficient....

Richard Garbary richard6 at gmail.com
Sat Aug 11 07:57:08 PDT 2012

Thank goodness our provincial (Ontario) government put a halt to new
nukes. It was projected it would cost $10,800 per kilowatt.


I'm not so sure of the benefits of tankless electric. 10 to 20
kilowatts of additional demand and mostly during peak periods sure
puts a burden on an already stressed grid.  Conventional tank water
heaters demand 1.5 to 4.5 kilowatts. Take the hourly consumption chart
of an electric tankless household and replicate it a million times and
I think the point will be clear. Some of my hourly consumption charts
can be found here:  http://flatteningthecurve.wordpress.com/
I would like to see the hourly charts from a tankless household.

The costs associated with coping with demand loads from tankless water
heaters is greater than the costs associated with thermal losses from
tank type water heaters.

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Carmine Vasile <gfx-ch at msn.com> wrote:
>> ...lots of carbon-free energy will be available for at least 4 decades and
>> tankless electric water heaters will continue to be the cleanest, most
>> efficient way to heat water in on grids serve by these nukes.
> I don't know if you are being facetious here, Carmine, but since you
> addressed this message to the three of us, I'll just say that I despise all
> things nuclear even more than I mistrust energy efficiency. Figuring out how
> not to need most of the electricity we now consume (to me) is a heck of a
> lot easier than figuring out how to live with the consequences of nuclear
> power for hundreds or thousands of generations.
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