[Greenbuilding] Hot3000 - License Expiry message?

David Bergman bergman at cyberg.com
Wed Jan 18 19:44:48 CST 2012


Is there an article or review somewhere that 
compares the applications for and functionality of these programs?

While I'm asking, similar question regarding building LCA software.....

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At 08:27 PM 1/18/2012, Douglas E Lamb wrote:
>I love the educational value of this site.
>Learn something new every day!
>Nist BEES may have the same combined building material techniques for
>permafrost conditions.
>I thought Onset would have some software to translate such conditions, but
>no go.
>I'll check out NERL.
>
>Regards,
>Doug Lamb
>douglaslamb at columbus.rr.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
>[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Stuart
>Fix
>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:39 PM
>To: Green Building
>Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Hot3000 - License Expiry message?
>
>Agreed the PHPP isn't the best choice for accuracy, I use IES<ve> in that
>case. I find PHPP really shines on quick comparative analysis. In John's
>case, you could grab a few slab & footing designs, use THERM to calculate
>each edge performance accurately (thermal bridge, linear PSI value), and
>then throw the open area Uvalue & PSI into PHPP to quickly compare the
>overall performance of each.
>
>I'm not familiar with HOT3000, but to do what I described in IES<ve> would
>be much more time consuming than in PHPP, and if you're more interested in
>selecting the best design than in an accurate annual performance prediction,
>PHPP is my choice.
>
>Can you enter custom slab edge effects in HOT3000?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Stuart Fix, P.Eng., LEED® AP
>PHI Certified Passive House Designer
>MASc. Building Science
>Mechanical Engineer
>ReNü Building Science Inc.
>
>#206, 506B St. Albert Trail | St. Albert, Alberta | T8N 5Z1 | C.
>780.554.8192 | sfix at renubuildings.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Straube [mailto:jfstraube at uwaterloo.ca]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:10 PM
>To: Green Building
>Cc: Stuart Fix
>Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Hot3000 - License Expiry message?
>
>HOT3000 is an hourly model that uses actual hourly weather files and a true
>mass and energy balance. This allows it to be much more accurate if such
>accuracy is required.
>The monthly average method used by PHPP is quite an approximation and
>requires fudge factors to get close to the right answer.  I have often heard
>it claimed to be "the most sophisticate" or "the most accurate", but I have
>never seen these claims substantiated.  PHPP's best feature is its
>simpleness and transparency (features I value very highly), but it is not
>that sophisticated.  Never use it for detail design myself, just for initial
>scoping design.
>THERM is needed for most energy modeling programs to get the R-value of
>details right.
>WINDOW or similar is useful to get true window U-value.
>
>
>
>On 12-01-18 6:48 PM, Stuart Fix wrote:
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Can't help you with your Hot3000 issues, but I'd recommend the Passive
> > House Planning Package (PHPP) paired with THERM as the best combo out
> > there for modeling the effects of slab details.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Stuart Fix, P.Eng., LEED® AP
> > PHI Certified Passive House Designer
> > MASc. Building Science
> > Mechanical Engineer
> > ReNü Building Science Inc.
> >
> > #206, 506B St. Albert Trail | St. Albert, Alberta | T8N 5Z1 | C.
> > 780.554.8192 | sfix at renubuildings.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
> > [mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of
> > John O'Brien
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:44 PM
> > To: greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org
> > Subject: [Greenbuilding] Hot3000 - License Expiry message?
> >
> > Was just playing around with Hot2000 today, figured I'd try out
> > Hot3000, but it appears to be dead in the water. Error message from
> > H2kCore - Hot2000 license has expired. Contact NRCAN.
> >
> > No contact info, and the bug report links are all dead. Anyone
> > encountered this issue.
> >
> > On another note, is it possible to model a fully foam wrapped slab on
> > grade in Hot2000.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > John
> >
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>Dept of Civil Engineering / School of Architecture www.buildingscience.com
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