[Greenbuilding] eco glue

Sun Mar 18 12:53:15 CDT 2012

I became a LEED AP so I can acutely discuss it, even though the only reason
I would ever certify a building is if it made sense to pay for it out of
the advertising budget.

Gennaro Brooks-Church
347-244-3016
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On Mar 18, 2012 1:37 PM, "David Bergman" <bergman at cyberg.com> wrote:

>  This sounds like a good sub-area for your blog: "Green or Good (or Both)?"
>
> David
>
> At 10:47 AM 3/18/2012, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn wrote:
>
> yea I know the harm of mass loaded vinyl. But sometimes I like to test
> conventional products so I know what I'm talking about when I offer
> alternatives.
>
> For example:
> Good stuff spray foam vs. Soy based spray foam. Forget the argument that
> there actually isn't much soy in soy spray foam. The stuff just isn't that
> good. It doesn't hold up to Good stuff spray foam.
>
> Water based low VOC floor glue vs. toxic glue. Water based glue basically
> sucks. It has no holding power compared to toxic.
>
> Spray fiberglass insulation vs. cellulose. Cellulose wins hands down.
>
> Toxic varnish vs. water based. Toxic is much stronger
>
> Toxic varnish vs tung oil. Tung oil much better...
>
> Etc.
>
>
> So......can anyone suggest a solution for adhering thin flooring to MLV?
>
>
>
> Gennaro Brooks-Church
> Director, Eco Brooklyn Inc.
> Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA
> www.EcoBrooklyn.com
> 22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:40 PM, RT <archilogic at yahoo.ca> wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:25:35 -0400, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn
> > <info at ecobrooklyn.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone have suggestions for an eco glue to adhere mahogany
> >> flooring to mass loaded vinyl
> >
> >
> >
> > It seems more than a little incongruous to be seeking an "eco glue" to
> > adhere something to vinyl.
> > "Vinyl" = poly vinyl chloride  (PVC)
> >
> > It's akin to asking about a gentle hair conditioner for bubonic
> > plague-carrying rats isn't it ?
> >
> > http://www.healthybuilding.net/pvc/facts.html
> > http://www.acereport.org/pvc2.html
> >
> > =============== Copied material==================
> > ( from
> http://www.ase.tufts.edu/gdae/Pubs/rp/Economics_of_PVC_revised.pdf
> > )
> >
> >
> >        "PVC poses hazards to human health over the course of its life
> cycle.
> >         PVC production exposes workers and communities to vinyl chloride
> and
> > other toxic substances.
> >         PVC products such as medical equipment and children’s toys can
> leach
> > toxic additives during their useful life.
> >        Vinyl building materials release hydrochloric acid fumes if they
> > catch
> > fire, and burning PVC creates byproducts including dioxin, a potent
> > carcinogen.
> >
> > ========== End of copied material ===========
> >
> > About 15 or 20 years ago PVC was banned in a number of European
> countries,
> > labelling it as an "Environmental Toxin" (a bit strong perhaps but
> > nevertheless...).
> >
> > NASA banned its use at least that long ago claiming that the off-gassed
> > vinyl chloride gummed-up their sensitive instrumentation.
> >
> > I don't know how many books and films  PVC has been slammed in over the
> > years (including Wayne Grady's "Green Home" (1993)) and "Blue Vinyl"
> > http://www.bluevinyl.org ).
> >
> > So, one of course does wonder why one would make a conscious decision to
> > include vast amounts of PVC into the indoor environment of an aspiring
> "eco"
> > home ?
> >
> > Aside from the "eco" aspect...
> >
> > Silicone caulking sticks to just about any material. Ever notice what
> > material they use to make the tube from which silicone caulking is
> dispensed
> > ? Uh huh. And why ? Because (almost) nothing sticks to it.
> >
> >
> > --
> > === * ===
> > Rob Tom
> > Kanata, Ontario, Canada
> >
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