[Greenbuilding] best low gpf toilet these days?

Thu Feb 7 15:54:26 CST 2013

In theory, wall hung shouldn¹t make a difference in performance.  Makes for
a very sleek, modern look.

One note, however, is that the wall hung Aquias tend to have very limited
availability. We had an order for them last year that had a 26 week (ie. 6
month) lead time. Lo-and-behold, that¹s exactly how long it took (it¹s a
slow boat) and the clients did actually wait for them.

On 2/7/13 3:24 PM, "UNSCHOOLER at LREC.ORG" <unschooler at lrec.org> wrote:

> An old thread, but one reason I *love* this list is that when I finally get
> around to having a specific question, I can search my mail archives and find
> the answer to just about anything I need!!  So I'm toilet shopping right now
> and am wondering if anyone has any experience with the wall-hung Toto Aquia?
> It's pricey, but I *love* the idea of being able to easily clean under and
> around it and I don't even have any kids left at home anymore.  It only comes
> in "cotton" (white), unfortunately, so I'm needing to make a decision pretty
> soon as it would affect several other design choices in that bathroom.
> 
> Aside from that specific toilet, how about wall-hung toilets in general?  I
> can make an access panel in the back of that wall--it opens up into a closet.
> Otherwise, I probably wouldn't attempt it.
> 
> --Leslie
> 
> On Sep 7, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Jason Holstine wrote:
> 
>> Re: [Greenbuilding] best low gpf toilet these days?
>> The Toto Aquia II (newer version of the Aquia) is our ³default² toilet,
>> extremely popular. One added clean benefit‹the exterior has very sleek lines,
>> easier to clean than many toilets with the fake pipe shapes on the sides and
>> back.
>> 
>> Toto just announced a single-flush 1.0 GPF toilet that I hear should be
>> coming out later this Fall.
>> When people don¹t want or need a dual-flush, then the rest of the Eco-named
>> Totos with the HEP designation work great, too , at 1.28 GPF....lots of
>> styles and pricepoints due to style and color.
>> 
>> One ironic point to consider on dual-flush toilets: if people are ignorant
>> and don¹t really care (or plain stooopid) they¹ll just use the 1.6 button,
>> completely eliminating the benefit. So make sure it¹s for a home where the
>> occupants understand the point (although I have full confidence in Reuben).
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/7/12 3:27 PM, "David Bergman" <bergman at cyberg.com
>> <x-msg://491/bergman@cyberg.com> > wrote:
>> 
>>> Agreed -- I've spec'd Aquia's on several projects and never had a client
>>> complaint.
>>> 
>>> David Bergman
>>> 
>>> At 03:08 PM 9/7/2012, Matt Dirksen wrote:
>>>> I've had three Toto Aquia dual flush toilets in my home, and I have never
>>>> once needed a plunger having three small children flush every type of toy
>>>> down them over the past several years.
>>>> 
>>>> (I do alway need a cleaning brush near by, due to occasional "drag
>>>> marks"...)
>>>> 
>>>> Matt Dirksen
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 7, 2012, at 1:44 PM, David Bergman <bergman at cyberg.com
>>>> <x-msg://491/bergman@cyberg.com> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> It's not the cheapest model, but we just got a Toto Ultramax one-piece HET
>>>>> and so far are very happy with it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did research the Niagara Stealth -- which initially sounded great --
>>>>> before choosing the Toto and found a lot of critical comments (though I
>>>>> don't recall the specifics offhand).
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Bergman  RA   LEED AP
>>>>> DAVID BERGMAN ARCHITECT | FIRE & WATER LIGHTING
>>>>> architecture . interiors . ecodesign . lighting . furniture
>>>>> bergman at cyberg.com <x-msg://491/bergman@cyberg.com>    www.cyberg.com
>>>>> <http://www.cyberg.com>  <http://www.cyberg.com/>
>>>>> 212 475 3106 
>>>>> 
>>>>> author - Sustainable Design: A Critical Guide
>>>>> blog - www.EcoOptimism.com <http://www.EcoOptimism.com>
>>>>> <http://www.ecooptimism.com/>
>>>>> adjunct faculty - Parsons The New School for Design
>>>>> 
>>>>> At 12:23 PM 9/7/2012, Reuben Deumling wrote:
>>>>>> I've liked my American Cadet 3 that came out on top of the MaP study many
>>>>>> years ago, though the initial throttling of the flush volume that was
>>>>>> yielding 0.96 gpf no longer works. I'm mystified why this performance
>>>>>> would seem to have deteriorated. But of course in the meantime the 1.28
>>>>>> gpf standard has come along. Would anyone care to offer suggestions of
>>>>>> what models are particularly good values?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> PS there's a prominent ad by Niagara for their Stealth model on the MaP
>>>>>> site http://www.map-testing.com/ - is that a model anyone can speak to?
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