[Greenbuilding] fertilizer from human waste

[Sacie Lambertson]

Honest to Pete Benjamin, your friend doesn't know what he's talking about.
Chicken manure is one of the best kinds of manure to put on a garden,
vegetable or flower.  No manure smells like anything other than good
compost once it is properly composted.  (You never put any type of fresh
manure on a garden btw; maybe that's what your friend is doing).  Google
'chicken manure' for all sorts of info on the subject.

I would love to get a load of it for my gardens.

Sacie

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Benjamin Pratt
<benjamin.g.pratt at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> I do have a question. My friend, who is an organic farmer, said he
> won't use chicken shit because it makes the vegetables taste bad. Is
> this possible?  If it is, it would make more sense to make fertilizer
> more smell-free.
>
> -Ben
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:35 AM, RT <archilogic at yahoo.ca> wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:45:39 -0500, Benjamin Pratt
> > <benjamin.g.pratt at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Not sure if this is happening anywhere else, but I'm glad it's
> >> happening here. Hope to go pick some up this spring!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_22367291/from-your-toilet-your-dining-table
> >
> >
> > Not sure if I like the MinneGrow process or not.
> >
> > My first reaction was to think:
> >
> >     "Another example of the Murrican penchant for needless gizmological
> > complexification of an otherwise simple, natural process"
> >
> > when I saw that Minnegro heats the humanure up to 1500 degF, previously
> > using petro-fuel to do so but modifying the process to use methane
> > off-gassed from the humanure to reduce their petro-fuel consumption by
> 75%.
> >
> > The thoughts going through my mind were:
> >
> >  (1) Waste of fuel that could have been directed to other uses, letting
> > organisms do the work instead
> >  (2) Doesn't the heating to 1500 degrees effectively render the material
> > lifeless ?
> >      ie The reason I like to use compost is because it is full of living,
> > beneficial bacteria and hopefully many worms. The temperatures in
> domestic
> > compost piles seldom exceed 160 degF, plenty hot enough to kill pathogens
> > that might be found in some manures.)
> >
> >      Wouldn't pelletised material that has been cooked at 1500 degF
> result
> > in a dead material not all that dissimilar from the synthetic chemical
> > fertiliser that creates the type of dead soil that requires perpetual
> > additions of chemical supplements in order for plant material to look
> > reasonably healthy ?
> >
> > I also remember years ago when the subject of the use of municipal
> > bio-solids (aka sewage sludge from municipal treament plants) on farmers'
> > fields raised howls of anger from many listmembers from some US states
> who
> > claimed that pharmaceuticals, toxic chemicals from household cleaners,
> and
> > heavy metals (from who knows where) were present in the municipal
> material
> > and was responsible for all sorts of undesirable health issues
> experienced
> > by people living downstream from where the municipal bio-solids were
> being
> > spread on fields.
> >
> > Perhaps those complaints from the old days were what prompted Minnegro to
> > heat their product to 1500 degrees ? If so, I would think that it would
> do
> > little to address the issue of heavy metals. Not sure what it would do to
> > the toxins from chemicals dumped into the municipal sewage by unthinking
> > knuckleheads.
> >
> > Me ? I think that if I were using municipal compost on my vegetable
> gardens,
> > I'd stick to using the stuff that is made from composted yard waste and
> > reserve the stuff made from from municipal bio-solids for flowerbeds and
> > such-like. Although, if a municipality allows the  use of herbicides and
> > pesticides on lawns, then I think that I'd forego the use of municipal
> yard
> > waste compost on my vegetable gardens as well.
> >
> > --
> > === * ===
> > Rob Tom                                 AOD257
> > Kanata, Ontario, Canada
> >
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