[Greenbuilding] Best House

Sun Dec 17 14:50:17 CST 2017

I hear you Reuben. What the world needs to survive and what humans are
willing to live with might not be compatible. Time will tell. Until then,
I'd like to find the closest possible match. Mud hut may be one extreme of
the spectrum that although wonderfully low carbon footprint is clearly is
not compatible with current human desires. Bermed cob with triple pane
windows might be getting closer....your thoughts?
In terms of House Seeds, just because I'm not convinced Styro Homes are
sustainable doesn't mean my goal of finding a building technique that meets
both global and personal needs is unrealistic.

Thanks!
Gennaro

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn <
> info at ecobrooklyn.com> wrote:
>
>> I understand where you are coming from, playing devil's advocate of
>> sorts. So what is the definition of sustainable? Mine is that something can
>> be reproduced willingly and globally for a long time. Yes if we all lived
>> in mud huts it could be reproduced globally for a long time.
>>
> exactly.
>
>
>> But nobody would agree to it. Thus not sustainable.
>>
>
> Aha! That is the crux, isn't it?
>
> My definition of sustainable recognizes the problematic nature of allowing
> politics to dilute what we know to be necessary. We know that we must leave
> all remaining fossil fuels in the ground; not dig them up and certainly not
> burn them if we hope to continue living on this planet. But we aren't ready
> to face that music, accept that responsibility, make the adjustments to our
> lifestyles that would be necessary. Which means that sustainability is
> elusive or impossible (politically).
>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Gennaro
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, where's the HVAC?
>>>
>>> I guess we'd need to compare definitions of sustainable.
>>> I'm not motivated to live in such a house, but was rather piggybacking
>>> off your list of questions.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn <
>>> info at ecobrooklyn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Image of a mud hut attached. It falls drastically short on many levels.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Gennaro
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn
>>>>> <info at ecobrooklyn.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mud huts are not sustainable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 2:31 PM Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mud huts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco
>>>>>>> Brooklyn <info at ecobrooklyn.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> I appreciate the benefits of Insulated Thin-Shell Concrete but am
>>>>>>>> not sure if that's more of a transition solution rather than a long term
>>>>>>>> solution. Anything with concrete is suspect to me for long term solutions.
>>>>>>>> It makes me think of early vegetarian food that tried to be like meat
>>>>>>>> instead of finding its own identity. For me insulated concrete is still in
>>>>>>>> the world of our current construction, which I'd like to transcend to a
>>>>>>>> whole new level. A good metric for me is to ask what would happen if
>>>>>>>> everyone in the world started using that material. First off is that
>>>>>>>> affordable? Is it the most sustainable solution? Is it viable on a
>>>>>>>> production level even?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>> Gennaro
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 2:06 PM, ErgoDesk <ergodesk at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gennaro, It's time to show the World that there are people who
>>>>>>>>> care about the cost. quality, safety and destruction of our forests. This
>>>>>>>>> year was a perfect example, we had floods and fire that indicates that
>>>>>>>>> there are problems how we live here on earth. I think its time to show how
>>>>>>>>> simple and inexpensive building a quality Home Construction can be.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Insulated Thin-Shell Concrete, check it out here for several
>>>>>>>>> sequential slideshows on the entire process.  http://www.greenbuil
>>>>>>>>> dershawaii.net/photos/gallery1.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>> George Hawirko
>>>>>>>>> Ph: 604-477-7897 <(604)%20477-7897>
>>>>>>>>> *http://about.me/StyroHome <http://about.me/StyroHome>*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Those are a lot of questions, Gennaro. Sounds like a fun project.
>>>>>>>>>> My only suggestion would be to install lots of meters up front so those who
>>>>>>>>>> end up living there can track their usage (of water, electricity, etc.).
>>>>>>>>>> Feedback of that sort is super important to realizing low impact living.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm looking forward to Rob Tom's response (if he is still in the
>>>>>>>>>> wings).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco
>>>>>>>>>> Brooklyn <info at ecobrooklyn.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm looking to buy some land in upstate NY and build ten cabins
>>>>>>>>>>> using the most cutting edge building techniques in the world.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking single rooms with a bathroom and a larger building
>>>>>>>>>>> for congregation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So.......what would these look like if they are to be the very
>>>>>>>>>>> best in green building. Or building in general....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Would they be scattered around the land, bermed, a combination
>>>>>>>>>>> of earthship and passive house?
>>>>>>>>>>> For maximum efficiency would they be all together in one
>>>>>>>>>>> building with combined plumbing and sewer? I prefer the aesthetic that they
>>>>>>>>>>> be hidden in the countryside rather than one big visible building.......
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And to be truly cutting edge they need to improve on the way
>>>>>>>>>>> people interact. Is there a central meeting place with hall and dinning
>>>>>>>>>>> area? Or does each cabin have a kitchenette?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Your thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>> Gennaro
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Sent from Mobile, excuse the brevity.
>>>>>> Gennaro Brooks-Church, Director
>>>>>> Eco Brooklyn
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