[Stoves] 4 pictures for you

Mon Dec 27 15:14:20 CST 2010

The 4 tubes are only a few inches from the bottom of the stove, so ashes
sometimes cover them.  The galvanized cover I put over the air intake holes,
keeps chaff from falling in, warms the incoming air more, but along with the
90 degree angle in the 4 pipes, makes it more difficult to be sure they are
clean.

I can see where funneling/focusing slower burns, coming under the baffle,,
would make Sedore more efficient. Suppose it would need a bypass door, to
open, when fueling.

The 30' X 10' dia. 1" thick rr tank car, shown last, in the biochar video,
is still waiting for a cheap, efficient plan, for top loading brush, to
produce heat, biochar and possibly energy.  Any TLUD ideas that might fit?
 Thanks,  Dick

Biochar Production <http://www.thefarm.winona-mn.us/biochar.html>

Dick Gallien
22501 East Burns Valley Road
Winona  MN  55987
dickgallien at gmail.com  [507]454-3126
www.thefarm.winona-mn.us

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On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <
crispinpigott at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Dick for the explanation.
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> As before, I note that because there is such a large open space inside the
> back of the stove. I say ‘open’ because when the fire is small, it is as
> good as a partially heated open space.
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> It is, from your description, going to be a very clean burning stove once
> it is hot and running at high power. The heat and flames will be filling in
> the space at the back. When the fire is smaller, smoke and CO can get around
> the flames at the edges. That is what I was referring to when I say it needs
> a combustion chamber.
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> Two stove list members, Paul Anderson and John Davies, are using a conical
> region immediately away from, above, next to, the fire+fuel to give the
> flames a chance to meet the smoke and burn it. The modified traditional
> Mongolian stove has instead a pipe which accomplishes the same thing. It
> would be interesting to know what happens of some sort of conical burning
> chamber were inserted immediately after the fingers that separate the fuel
> from the flames.
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> I am surprised your primary air supply tubes can get clogged. With what?
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> Regards
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> Crispin
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> *From:* stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org [mailto:
> stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] *On Behalf Of *Dick Gallien
> *Sent:* 27 December 2010 12:15
> *To:* Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
> *Subject:* Re: [Stoves] 4 pictures for you
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> Hi Crispin,
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> It would be a cross draft, with the preheated primary air coming down
> through the 4, approximately 1" pipes, that enter a few inches from the
> base.  The pipes have a right angle and I mentioned to Bruce Wolfe, who was
> just starting USA Sedore, that the 4 pipes would be easier to clean,  if the
> right angle  was eliminated.  He agreed and said it would  also be cheaper,
> so may have changed that. My 4 pipes must be partly or completely plugged,
> in that it is always run wide open and we usually have a nail or large bolt
> holding the feed door partly open, making it a down draft.  It has an 18'
> straight stack, with insulated stainless on the outside, so draws well.
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> There is no grate, just a few fingers protruding half way down, into the
> approx. 3+" gap across the width of the floor of the firebox.  It couldn't
> be much simpler or  efficient, yet all my long gone farmer neighbors, heated
> with the most in efficient wood stoves and furnaces, often with large,
> uninsulated homes.
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> Dick
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> Dick Gallien
> 22501 East Burns Valley Road
> Winona  MN  55987
> dickgallien at gmail.com  [507]454-3126
> www.thefarm.winona-mn.us
>
> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <
> crispinpigott at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Dear Dick
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> That is a really big throat! Wow. That was one huge chunk of wood it
> swallowed!
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> As far as I can tell from you description it is a downdraft stove. Is that
> correct? Is there a grate with the flame coming through the bottom, or an
> opening at the back with the flame going sideways out the back? In that case
> it is a Crossdraft stove with the primary air coming in from the front and
> passing through the fuel to the back.
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> Perhaps you can comment.
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> Much appreciated the video…
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> Crispin
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> >>>>
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> This is the 4th or 5th winter I've had this Sedore.  The creosote is from
> the green chips and having the stack sections in backwards.  I've never had
> to clean the chimney.  Any stack creosote falls directly into the inferno.
>  Have heated only with wood, for over 50 years.   Dick
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb83h6kts7o
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