[Stoves] Country by Country Project List?
Xavier Brandao
xvr.brandao at gmail.com
Wed Apr 20 11:15:30 CDT 2011
Dear Jan, Frank and all,
I agree, we should take the initiative to set up a group, gather ideas,
organize them and submit them to the right organisation, I have the feeling
the Global Alliance is the most-suited. It ranks among the firsts when
searching about stoves on Google, it has visibility. Maybe there are others?
This organization could host a kind of web-based software, or methods-manual
which would be the skeleton of a participative approach, a kind of
wikipedia, but with more clarity and a better display. People should be able
to find what they want with a few clicks. The initiative needs to be
well-structured, long-lasting and involving everyone, but I think it can
start from a group of individuals, especially if they represent different
organisations working in the field.
If you want to set up such a group, count me in. Maybe there are people in
the list with experience in knowledge and information management, and who
had been doing such an exercise already?
Cheers,
Xavier
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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 10:17:45 -0700
From: "Jan Bianchi" <janbianchi at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [Stoves] Country by Country Project List?
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Dear Xavier
Then maybe a group should be put together to see that this gets done. I
agree that that a map would be a good way to display it--different color for
stove type and pattern for fuel type. PCIA has a good list of projects,
but they only get only the list if they are partners of PCIA.
Aren't there people on this list serve who know folks at the Alliance?
Let's find out who they are and see if another attempt at your idea couldn't
be made. Maybe it just got lost in start-up frenzy. I notice the Alliance's
website hasn't changed much since January--this seems like it would be
project made for them. I'd be curious to know what they think of it.
By the way--thanks for forwarding me the articles.
Jan
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:36:21 -0700
From: "Frank Shields" <frank at compostlab.com>
To: "'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'"
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Subject: Re: [Stoves] Country by Country Project List?
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Dear Jan, Xavier and Stovers,
I agree the Charcoal Project is on the right track with making a map of the
type of biomass around the world. Then focus on the biomass that's
sustainable and yearly amount that can be produced. All this helps market
the right stove for an area as marketing the wrong stove may lead to biomass
depletion.
Then, as you mention, we need to match the stove with the fuel. To do this
the fuel needs to be categorized based on physical and chemical
constituents, not only by name. Then each stove tested for their working
range. And to do this we need to list the constituents for testing and
methods to use - we need an agreed upon methods manual.
The methods manual should be produced by an organized group or University
and structured and financed such that permits input from all and ongoing
continued review. And all the major players need to get on board adapting
the program. All this takes money and commitment to the project.
Regards
Frank
Frank Shields
Soil Control Lab
42 Hangar Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
(831) 724-5422 tel
(831) 724-3188 fax
frank at compostlab.com
www.compostlab.com
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