[Stoves] re The Ccharcoal project

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott crispinpigott at gmail.com
Mon Aug 29 04:43:08 CDT 2011


Paal

It seems also you do not get mine.

Let's then take a break.

Crispin

 

 

Crispin 

Pity for the forest in Tanzania as you did not get my point. And I
understand your results of your calculations when you compare leisure energy
in Canada with household energy in Africa. 

 Regards Paal W 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <mailto:crispinpigott at gmail.com>  

To: 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'
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Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 11:42 AM

Subject: Re: [Stoves] re The Ccharcoal project

 

Dear Paal

 

Regarding the transport of charcoal, I am sure you have seen 10 tons of
charcoal on a 7 ton truck. Nothing unusual about that sight. I am not sure
of the relevance of that you your other points about end user opinion and
charcoal production.

 

What would be helpful is if you would engage the topic of sustainable
charcoal production. People want to use it as a fuel because it is nice,
simple as that. Lots of people in Canada who can afford any fuel they want
choose to cook meat with charcoal. It is a market that is going to last as
long as there is cooking, as far as I can see.

 

No one wants to waste the heat produced during the production of charcoal.
It would be great of people in rural areas could generate power form the
gases and use it, and sell the charcoal to people in cities. The maximum
economic benefit would be spread over the largest number of people that way.
It would also spread  sustainable power generation and charcoal production
over a large enough area of land to make a sustainable living for the
maximum number of people.

 

My point is that your position 'against charcoal' is too extreme. You can't
be 'against' something that has a niche in the energy equation. Some are
proposing to send wood into the cities, make char there and ship the char
back. Think of the energy inefficiency that entails. There are (not yet
anyway) wood powered road vehicles that can operate on the sustainable
energy originating on the farms. 

 

Char production can supply high quantities of 'process heat' for powering
all sorts of things on the farms. Farmers should be allowing nothing to
leave their land unless it is as processed as possible in that region. That
takes energy. Turning local produce into exportable products (which includes
processed fuels) is the opportunity that we should not kill because we don't
like someone's current wasteful methods.

 

Regards

Crispin

 

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