[Stoves] WorldStove replies to BioFuelWatyche's latestimprecisereporting of facts.

[Steve Taylor]

On 28 July 2011 06:43, Fireside Hearth <firesidehearthvashon at hotmail.com>wrote:

>  Dear Ron.....
>
>         What I have is 26 years of proven track record without the fancy
> language, or insults. I have created a stove, maybe by instinct, which works
> "damn well". I know what "pre" epa stoves did in our area, and what happened
> when certification came along. I was in the labs at Lopi and Avalon when
> they met their first certification challenge. It doesn't take a rocket
> scientist to figure out what burns dirty or clean, smoke out put is a great
> indicator.
>

Unfortunately smoke is one parameter - but in our indoor cooking stove world
CO and NOx is as important.


>         The best parameters I can give you would be what we are doing on a
> daily basis with this stove. If we burn a 5 lb log rated at 8500 btu/lb and
> a moisture content of approx 8% at a low run we have a burn time of up to 12
> hours. During this burn our stove's cook top temps run up to 1150 deg.F. and
> the internal temps can run up to 1600.deg f.
>


but temperature is not the same as heat !

Come back with some verified numbers - or the sciency stuff you decry is
going to end up making you look like a snake oil salesman. From the basic
math I showed you yesterday, your energy release is a maximum of 700W over
the time you describe.

Stoves "running up to " is of zero interest - the pollution doesn't HAPPEN
when the stove is running as hot as it can go.

You need burn temperature data logged over several runs, with different fuel
loads, and with different fuel geometries.

As a small businessman myself, I have every sympathy with your position ! I
would like you to have found the product with which you can make your
fortune, but the from what you have shown here, you seem to be in great
danger of believing in your product in the absence of good data. The ASTM
produce some new tests for stove performance, I suggest you try and do them
yourself.

Steve
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