[Stoves] Patents

Max Turunen maxturunen at gmail.com
Sat Sep 3 20:28:20 CDT 2011


Here is one method, an attempt, to keep a picture and model concept in it,
as public freeware for all.
In this picture there is a copyright clause on the lower right.
That copyright clause is designed to make patenting impossible, and for the
object to be usable/exploitable to all.
In this picture it refers to ideas, and the image itself: it can now be used
for commercial and non-commercial purposes alike.

To avoid the troublesome small print in facebook, and several other sites,
about them owning all images and writings posted through them, I have posted
the image first into a local (physically local, here in Finland) server...
let it be there for a while... (so that it may start to show up within
search engines, or be seen by other people as I link it to people/audiences
that I thought might have been interested about my illustration sketch about
funky spatial spiral. Only after while of that, I linked to it from more
popular social media nets, like facebook.

Now the world seems to genuinely have a free to use, modify, change, sell...
sketchy image representing 'funky spatial spiral'.

But, with same copyright clause.... it might be something else: It might be
a new pyrolysing stove's blueprints, making and operating instructions.

The legal language may seem short and odd, but it refers to cases where
people have been dragged to court for using software that was freeware, but
not specifically directed to them personally as thing to which they
specifically have a right to use and copy.

To make it more solid against possible evasions of the legal wording, a
clarification can be added to the end: " ...regardless of their legal
status" .


MaxT


On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <
crispinpigott at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Xavier
>
> It is hard to steal an idea these days because of the date-ability of most
> communications. Exception exist, for example two companies are researching
> exactly the same problem.  One finds a solution and a spy reveals it to the
> opposition. They file first. That is a problem
>
> If both arrive at the same solution independently and prepare Papers Patent
> (brevette) it is possible that the income will be shared, as per the Rubic's
> Cube. Rubic had to share income (after many years) with a Japanese parallel
> invention.
>
> You can't patent something you did NOT invent, whatever people tell you.
> Those days are gone.
>
> Regards
> Crispin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Xavier Brandao" <xvr.brandao at gmail.com>
> Sender: stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 21:06:57
> To: <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Reply-To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
>         <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] Patents
>
> Good evening,
> Very interesting discussion, the stovelist is then the perfect anti-patent
> weapon.
> Before internet and the computer, perhaps it was more difficult to prove
> the
> idea existed if someone tried to steal it and patent it. Now, every
> document, every file, every email, is dated. The idea is in no time copied
> onto many different computers and servers, making it unstealable.
> I like that.
> Xavier
>
> P.S : how do you people manage to have a full conversation before I even
> receive the initial message of the topic in my mailbox?
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
>
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:19:08 -0400
> From: "Crispin Pemberton-Pigott" <crispinpigott at gmail.com>
> To: "Stoves" <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Subject: [Stoves] Patents
> Message-ID: <145101cc69ad$92dbf890$b893e9b0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Dear Stove Inventors
>
>
>
> There is a great description with graphics at
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2392375,00.asp discussing patents and
> the steps involved in getting one. There is a software/electronics related
> discussion about how the companies holding patents use them. It is
> instructive of the risks and benefits.
>
>
>
> It focuses at the end on the implications for the popular Android operating
> system which infringes on at least 10 patents owned by Oracle and
> Microsoft.
>
>
>
> Fortunately stoves don't have software, yet.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Crispin
>
>
>
>
>
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