[Stoves] [biochar] Re: Report on APBC - first two days
Lloyd Helferty
lhelferty at sympatico.ca
Sun Sep 18 11:48:28 CDT 2011
Thanks again, Ron.
I'll be looking for more detail about some of the points you brought up,
namely:
1) Of the "*10 companies* getting some mention" from Stephen Joseph,
were any /Canadian/?
2) P.S. Interesting note about "/*a lot of activity in Thailand*/". The
first time I heard about Biochar activities in Thailand was through
correspondence with *Bryan Hugill*, who is also a member of /*Biochar
Ontario*/.
2a) ... Although, the work in Thailand might also be the result of
*collaboration with the Japanese*.
I noted that Professor /*Kaneyuki Nakane*/ in the Graduate School of
Biosphere Sciences, Hiroshima University (within the Division of
Environmental Dynamics and Management) was "*/making a lot of ongoing
projects in Thailand/*" with "bamboo charcoal"...
Professor Nakane is the guy who did the fantastic /*Rooftop Garden*/
project(s) with Biochar (in collaboration with the Banks, which use
greenroofs to *keep the buildings that house ATMs cooler*, and therefore
/*reduce energy requirements*/).
http://www.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/en/top/research_HU/researchnow/no12/
See also the section starting about half way down the page about "*The
Hilltribe People of Thailand* and Burma..."
2b) I believe that the people of Thailand could probably teach us a
thing or two about Biochar by now also...
I read once that the King of Thailand had ordered rescue workers to
"spray the bodies with (powdered) Biochar" after Thailand experienced a
/*tsunami*/ -- "because the Biochar will 'deodorize' the decaying bodies
in minutes" -- and also because the Biochar "invites Beneficial
microorganisms as decomposters" (once the bodies are buried).
3) I would love to see that /*report from Taiwan*/. (As you know, I have
'close ties' to Taiwan... and had not really heard much of anything from
that island nation about any Biochar research ~ although I read once
that /Dynamotive/ was at one point supposedly “developing two plants in
Taiwan", in cooperation with a company called /Marketech International
Corporation/.)
4) I find it very interesting that there are no reports coming out of
China, considering that *Rob Flanagan* had helped a Chinese company
create one of the very first "/*NPK-C Biochar Fertilizers*/"...
5) Very interesting that "a Governmental *forester*" reported from
Mongolia. (I didn't think that there were enough trees in Mongolia for
the government to actually hire a "forester"... perhaps his job title
should be "reforester" or "afforester". ;-)
-- just kidding
6) What is "the /*Cool-Vege */concept" from Japan?
Lloyd Helferty, Engineering Technologist
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On 2011-09-17 7:14 PM, rongretlarson at comcast.net wrote:
>
> Biochar and stoves lists:
>
> This to provide a short recap of the third day of the Asian Pacific
> Biochar Conference (APBC2011).
>
> The day was again partly (mostly) in English and partly in Japanese
> (with translations and headsets). Very good translators. Most of the
> Asian countries gave a talk. The starter was Stephen Joseph for
> Australia. His was unusual in that it concentrated on corporate
> activity – at least 10 companies getting some mention. There were
> many research papers earlier and few earlier on the privates sector
> (exception being Adriana Downie and PacPyro mentioned yesterday). I
> asked Stephen about organized opposition to Biochar and he said
> none/little. He responded partly in terms of early strong support
> from former PM Malcolm Turnbull – and new government has not changed that.
>
> I won't go through each (my notes are not so good), but I remember
> being surprised at a lot of activity in Thailand, and good work in the
> Philippines. ( I was surprised that there was no report from Vietnam
> (where I will be for next three weeks), as Australian Peter Slavich
> (working full time in Aid project in Vietnam) in earlier private
> conversation said there was a long history of using spent charred rice
> husks – and he knew of work of Paul Olivier (who I will be visiting).
>
> Good report sfrom Taiwan and New Zealand; none from China. Report
> from Mongolia by a Governmental forester, not from Karl Frogner and
> his UBI group (Karl had a paper).
>
> The last two country talks were for Japan. First was entirely on
> the Cool-Vege concept.
>
> Later Prof Ogawa gave excellent Plenary talk - entirely on the
> extensive Biochar history in Japan.
>
> Prof. Johannes gave his usual great talk. Said he was delighted
> with progress and optimistic. That Biochar unknowns are like for any
> other ag area.
>
> I have run out of time. More later.
>
> Ron
>
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> *件名: *Report on APBC - first two days
>
> Biochar and stoves lists:
>
> This to provide a short recap of the first two days of the Asian
> Pacific Biochar Conference (APBC2011)
>
> Maybe 100 persons here – maybe 75 to 80 percent Japanese..
>
> Regular contributors to these two lists who are here include Tom
> Miles (and wife and son), John Miedema, and Karl Frogner. Apologies
> to other list members I don't recognize. At least 10 other people I
> judge from Australia (Stephen Joseph, Lukas van Zwieten, Adraian
> Downie, and Annett Cowie being some I knew previously). The final
> Plenary speaker of first day was Evelyn Krull who gave a wonderful
> description of the great Biochar work going on in Australia (all or
> mostly CSIRO??). They are working with 104 different chars – and
> identifying what makes each unique (temperature, species, etc)
>
> I know two here from Europe – maybe a few more. Others from US
> (not or rarely writing to these lists are IBI's Debbie Reed and
> Johannes Lehmann). The names of presenters are available at the APBC
> site. Two stoves/Biochar list contributors who are in program but
> couldn't make it are Kelpie Wilson and Jason Aramburo (and who are
> missed).
>
> The first day, Thursday, was in both Japanese and English – with
> everyone having earphones for the alternating translation need. The
> outstanding talk for me was by IBI's Debbie Reed – giving an exciting
> summary of the growth of IBI. About 11,000 hits on the website per
> month now - and 50% are new first time users each month. Still plenty
> of growth in Biochar technical literature, etc. Debbie gave more
> background and status on the forthcoming IBI draft standards. Last
> night, I attended part of an ad hoc meeting on the standards – which
> should be available within weeks at the IBI site (for four weeks
> comment period). Obviously a lot of work has gone into these
> standards – but a lot more still to be done.
>
> Yesterday was all in 20 minute presentations in three parallel
> tracks. The majority of the papers seemed to be soil-production
> related. Unfortunately (my giving a talk) I missed several coming
> from Lukas van Zwieten's NSW group on success with N20 capture, but he
> says that is showing continued importance. Quite a few talks that
> relate to the Science article by Dr. Wardle; no firm answers yet –
> but conversely I heard nothing that supports the Wardle contention
> that Biochar causes excess CO2 release. Adriana Downie gave several
> talks on her progress towards a new “PacPyro” firm that has just
> received a major multi-million grant and is going public. I enjoyed a
> talk on LCA given by CSIRO's Annette Cowie.
>
> Today I expect to learn a lot more about Japanese Biochar work as
> we get back to a single Plenary format and translation. Much evidence
> of Japan having done Biochar work for a long time – with a
> government-sanctioned program since the 1980's. Also Johannes is
> scheduled for 40 minutes.
>
> Many new people to meet. Have enjoyed especially two potential
> funders from the ADB and FAO and researchers from the Philippines,
> Korea, and Uganda. And of course many from Japan.
>
> The city of Kyoto is exceptionally modern and well maintained – a
> major tourist town. Prices seem close to double those I am used to.
> A cash economy – with my having major difficulties with no (presently
> valid) ATM card! Thanks to three listed above who could take my check
> in exchange for Yen!
>
> Questions?
>
> Ron
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