[Stoves] TLUD coal stove in UB Re: Engineering view

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Crispin and Paul: 

I'd like to see that data also. Also whether a coal stove user can make (or save) money by selling coke .as a service to others . 

Ron 

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From: "Paul Anderson" <psanders at ilstu.edu> 
To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org> 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 7:15:29 AM 
Subject: [Stoves] TLUD coal stove in UB Re: Engineering view 


Crispin, 

Please send info or a link to info about the TLUD coal stove in UB. Technical info as well as general description would be appreciated. And what is its cost or market price? 

Paul 
Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
Email: psanders at ilstu.edu Skype: paultlud  Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: www.drtlud.com On 6/25/2012 12:11 AM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote: 





Dear David 




The current cost of a cheap charcoal stove in Lusaka is $1.50 and the most money people can save for a new stove is about $2.50. After accumulating that much, it starts leaking out of the pocket. 



It is good to see some realistic numbers on what people really can afford to pay for a product. Stove programmes with subsidies are expensive to monitor if abuse is to be avoided and in some countries, nearly impossible to guarantee. For this reason the funding of development and creating capacity is seen as a better mechanism than subsidising products. Paying for marketing to launch is a good way to ‘invest’ in a new stove that is cheap. There was a publicity campaign mounted in Ulaanbaatar to teach people how to light, run and particularly, to refuel the stove being rolled out by MCA/MCC which is a TLUD coal stove. It costs $1m just for that publicity and it was very effective at changing traditional behaviour. It was money well spent as the stove, correctly operated, can reduce PM emissions more than 98%. 



Regards 

Crispin 



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