[Stoves] Fwd: Smoke-free biomass pellet fueled stove
Ronald Hongsermeier
rwhongser at web.de
Tue Nov 6 04:19:01 CST 2012
Dear Kevin,
Please define "Imperialism" since it's not clear from the context what
you mean.
Thanks,
Ronald von der Neuenkleinindustrieparkanlage
On 06.11.2012 05:37, Kevin wrote:
> Dear Anil
> Sadly, it looks like Imperialism is still alive and well.
> Best wishes,
> Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* nari phaltan <mailto:nariphaltan at gmail.com>
> *To:* Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
> <mailto:stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 06, 2012 12:09 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Stoves] Fwd: Smoke-free biomass pellet fueled stove
>
> *Dear Prof Nurhuda,*
> *
> *
> *It is a very impressive development and you are right in
> expecting a suitable rate of return on your intellectual property.
> Such requests for waiving rights have also been received by us for
> our ethanol stove work before from some members of the group.*
> *
> *
> *All the best.*
> *
> *
> *Anil K Rajvanshi*
> *
> *
> *
> *
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:38 PM, <mnurhuda at ub.ac.id
> <mailto:mnurhuda at ub.ac.id>> wrote:
>
> Dear Prof. Anderson,
>
> The equipments used to produce the stove are actually the standard
> equipments used in the kerosene stove production. They are
> hydraulic
> press, welding equipment, roller, and still many other equipments.
>
> The number of personals are 30 persons, but those are involved
> in the
> production, due to still lower demand, is only 6-10 persons.
>
> The maximum production capacity, at moment, around 500 units
> in week. But
> we can increase up to 1000 units in week. It depends on the
> difficulty
> level, the stove dimension and still many other things.
>
> The expenses used in the development of new stoves are mostly
> for research
> and purchasing or build new equipments. We have spent more
> tens thousands
> US$ from our start in the mid 2008. I therefore disagree to
> any proposal
> to intelectual right removal, as you ever wrote about it to me
> two years
> ago.
>
> Kind regards
> M. Nurhuda
>
>
>
> Regards
> M. Nurhuda
>
>
> > Dear M. Nurhuda,
> >
> > Thank you for the info.
> >
> > Many of us are curious about your workshop to produce such
> nice items.
> > Questions include the equipment, personnel, and production
> capacity.
> >
> > With appreciation,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka "Dr TLUD"
> > Email: psanders at ilstu.edu <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>
> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072 <tel:%2B1-309-452-7072>
> > Website: www.drtlud.com <http://www.drtlud.com>
> >
> > On 11/5/2012 1:13 AM, Ron Larson wrote:
> >>
> >> Lists:
> >>
> >> Prof. Nurhuda has ok'd my forwarding this additional
> information on
> >> his recently announced stove.
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >>
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >>> *From:* Muhammad Nurhuda <mnurhuda at gmail.com
> <mailto:mnurhuda at gmail.com>
> >>> <mailto:mnurhuda at gmail.com <mailto:mnurhuda at gmail.com>>>
> >>> *Date:* November 4, 2012 5:01:46 PM MST
> >>> *To:* rongretlarson at comcast.net
> <mailto:rongretlarson at comcast.net>
> <mailto:rongretlarson at comcast.net
> <mailto:rongretlarson at comcast.net>>
> >>> *Subject:* *Re: [Stoves] Smoke-free biomass pellet fueled
> stove*
> >>>
> >>> Dear Mr Larson,
> >>>
> >>> Thank a lot for your email. The stove is my recent attempt
> in order
> >>> biomass pellet can be well burnt. Previously, I developed
> stove fueled
> >>> wit
> >>> palm kernel shell. Even the stove was excellent for palm
> kernel shell,
> >>> but
> >>> it is not immediately good for biomass pellet. There are a
> lot of
> >>> things
> >>> that have to be optimized.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, the excess air can be seen from the appearance of the
> flame.
> >>> Optimal
> >>> secondary air would produce very transparent,short flame,
> though it
> >>> must
> >>> not be blue...... Mr Crispin Pemberton Pigott has
> witnessed the stove
> >>> as I demonstrated it in Yayasan Dian Desa, last October.
> >>>
> >>> I just started to sell this pellet stoves. At the moment,
> I got
> >>> purchasing
> >>> order of 1200 stoves. It occurs after the buyer perform
> test by
> >>> himself.
> >>> However, due to limited capacity of our workshop, the
> buyer must wait
> >>> up
> >>> to 3 months right now. At the moment, we are manufacturing
> 1600
> >>> chopped-wood fueled stoves for project in Sumba Island,
> Indonesia.
> >>>
> >>> The percentage of charcoal by weight is 20-25%. Some time
> it is less.
> >>> But
> >>> certainly, our stove burns the smoke very well until the
> last smoke
> >>> production.
> >>>
> >>> Biochar is char that contains volatile matter (VM) less
> then 3%. When
> >>> the
> >>> VM is still high, let say 5%, the reaction of VM and water
> can lead the
> >>> acidic soil condition, and it is not good for the plant.
> We believe
> >>> that
> >>> the biochar produced by combustion of our stove is
> VM-free, such that
> >>> it
> >>> is good for soil conditioner.
> >>>
> >>> As you might know, my background is a theoretical atomic
> and laser
> >>> physicist. I do not know some specific terms like
> turn-down ratio. I
> >>> started to develop stoves in the late 2008. In addition,
> I do not have
> >>> laboratory, just small workshop that produces the stoves.
> So far, the
> >>> performance tests are performed by external laboratories.
> In 2010 test
> >>> performed by PT Puser Bumi in cooperation with directory
> of bioenergy,
> >>> republic of Indonesia, our wood chopped stoves was the
> best among other
> >>> 60
> >>> stoves.
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards
> >>> M. Nurhuda
> >>>
> >>> > Prof. Nurhuda
> >>> > This is a really fine looking stove. The part that
> intrigues me most
> >>> is
> >>> that you are controlling secondary air for the pyrolysis
> gases. And
> >>> apparently doing it (and primary air) well with the
> rotating disc
> >>> mechanism. I do not recall seeing any other stove
> controlling both
> >>> (without a fan) - so any data on the value of that for
> users of the
> >>> stove
> >>> > could be very helpful to others. (Can they control
> excess air by the
> >>> look
> >>> > of the flame?)
> >>> > A few questions:
> >>> > the price?
> >>> > sales going well?
> >>> > what percentage char by weight?
> >>> > any soil improvement results from using the biochar?
> >>> > can you do more than a 4:3 turndown ratio? (based on
> your two stated
> >>> power
> >>> > levels)
> >>> > apparently you are striving for biochar (great!), but
> can you
> >>> describe
> >>> conditions if you try to burn the produced char?
> >>> > any efficiency data?
> >>> > you appear to be pre-heating both primary and secondary
> air - can you
> >>> attribute any performance improvement to that? (I know of
> no-one else
> >>> doing both)
> >>> > Thanks for the alert on your stove.
> >>> > Ron
> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > From:mnurhuda at ub.ac.id <mailto:From%3Amnurhuda at ub.ac.id>
> >>>
> <http://webmail.ub.ac.id/src/compose.php?send_to=mnurhuda%40ub.ac.id>
> >>> > To:stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
> <mailto:To%3Astoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> >>>
> <http://webmail.ub.ac.id/src/compose.php?send_to=stoves%40lists.bioenergylists.org>
> >>> > Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 5:03:54 PM
> >>> > Subject: [Stoves] Smoke-free biomass pellet fueled stove
> >>> > Dear all,
> >>> > Please check to following page to see the video of our
> smoke-free,
> >>> biomass-pellet fueled stove:
> >>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWt25oD1iWk&feature=youtu.be
> >>> > Kind regards
> >>> > M. Nurhuda
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