[Stoves] Why TLUDs are not mass produced

[Dean Still]

Dear Paul and Norbert,

Sounds like a great plan! Congratulations and look forward to hearing all
about it in Cambodia.

 "TLUDs are being mass produced".

Best,

Dean

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:20 AM, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:

>  Dear Stovers,
>
> Nolbert is correct about the process we are developing in Uganda to have a
> location making 12,000 to 15,000 flat-pack sets of pieces per year using
> manual labor with appropriate tools .   But he left out the part that the
> production site can then be replicated as many times as is needed to
> satisfy the market.   And those sites can be placed appropriately around
> the country.   Eight (8) sites would produce over 100,000 stoves per
> year.   And what we will do in Uganda we will facilitate in other countries
> with appropriately cooperating local persons and businesses there, and with
> appropriate variations of TLUDs to match the local markets.
>
> Please note our name:    Awamu      It means "together" in the Luganda
> language.   Awamu = Juntos = Ensemble = Sath-Sath = Together.   And that
> could include you.  Direct inquires should be made OFF-LIST to me at
> psanders at ilstu.edu
>
> Our plans should have evaluated results in Uganda by the time we all meet
> in Cambodia for the GACC Forum in March 2013.   And the comments about
> low-cost natural draft TLUDs should include this statement:     "TLUDs are
> being mass produced".
>
> Paul
>
> Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu   Skype: paultlud  Phone: +1-309-452-7072
> Website:  www.drtlud.com
>
> On 10/29/2012 2:23 AM, Nolbert Muhumuza wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> Though i understand the need and urgency to have stoves mass produced
> in "china", i am to a view that this can be done by hand in a
> developing country.
>
> Some of you might have already read from Paul Anderson that we are
> setting up a factory in Uganda which is basically producing parts of
> the Quad TLUD stove. The parts can easily be transported to another
> location where they can be assembled (another job created there).
> With a couple of young people who will gladly learn and concentrate on
> making different of this stove, we will in the end be producing 50
> stoves per day, that's 15,600 each year! All hand-made using basic
> tools!!!
>
> At Awamu Biomass Energy Ltd (ABE), we are aware that this is still
> somewhat a drop in the ocean, but IF things can get going, then the
> trick would be to increase the personnel and this will increase the
> output.
>
> Job  created - YES. Stoves mass produced - YES.
>
> Here am attaching some pictures of of the Quad stove.
>
> Regards, Nolbert.
>
> 2012/10/26, Richard Stanley <rstanley at legacyfound.org> <rstanley at legacyfound.org>:
>
>  Dear Crispin,
>
> Its not about making everything on site: Its about the rational (for  human
> capacity development purposes) of starting from the site and working outward
> /outsourcing  where needed.
>
> So the cell phone is not obviously going to be manufactured in Darfur  but
> can components or packaging be done there? Where in other words can  the
> value be  added locally to the extent possible .. The amount you can stay
> onsite varies with  the technology of course: but the principle ( of
> startgin local and drift outward to specialised sources, only when
> necessry), is the the whole point of local capacity development.
>
> Richard -here we go again- Stanley
>
>
>
> On Oct 26, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:
>
> Dear Josh
>
> Agreed. Where is the 'appropriate technology cell phone'? It would be the
> size of a Renault.
>
> The Darfur Stove is pre-manufactured and assembled near the vending point.
>
> Regards
> Crispin in warm K-L
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