[Stoves] Low cost charcoal gasifiers

[Paul Anderson]

Crispin,

No.   It is not agreed.   YOU need to provide info that discusses the 
issue, not just telling us to go contact somebody and then use phrases 
like "...in use (as I understand it) in the UK for a long time before 
that..."       To say "(as I understand it)" is not very convincing.

I would be happy to accept that COAL units the might have been 
substantially larger (I do not know) could have been lit at the top.    
Just present evidence.    We are not here to spend our time to prove you 
are wrong.  You need to prove that you are correct.   You can contact 
the Turkey folks and request sufficiently technical drawings and 
descriptions.  We await the results of your investigations.

   But as far as I KNOW, John Davies in South Africa was the first to 
utilize the Reed-style IDD (Inverted DownDraft that became TLUD in 
2004-05) gasification with COAL.

Paul

Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu   Skype: paultlud  Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  www.drtlud.com

On 9/28/2012 2:42 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:
> Dear Everyone
>
> Is it then agreed that the term TLUD was used from about the early '90's,
> and that in the modern era, TLUD stoves burning solid fuels, top-lit updraft
> style, working with a descending pyrolysis front, utilising preheated (or
> not) secondary air were available commercially from the late 50's?
>
> If there is still any doubt I encourage you to contact:
>
> Hasan HASKARAMAN
> SILVER GROUP OF COMPANIES TURKEY
> www.silver.com.tr
> Factory +90 352 241 01 90
>
> They build inverted (updraft) versions of the previously successful
> downdraft coal gasifiers in use (as I understand it) in the UK for a long
> time before that, with significant power controllability.  Haskaraman Senior
> is still alive so perhaps he will tell us more about possible Russian stoves
> that worked that way (there was technical contact which may have inspired
> him).
>
> Regards
> Crispin
>
> ++++++++++
> Doc,
>
> I read most of that GIZ report shared by Kubos.
> It was useful for me in terms of info about the genesis of gasifiers during
> World War II and other challenges they faced for domestic experimentations.
> I read up to chapter 8.
> Important warnings for ABE and other TLUD projects however i could not find
> the term TLUD.
>
> Nol.
>
>
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