[Stoves] Stove Definition

[Kevin]

Dear Frank

I get your point about the difficulty in getting agreement between people in a large group. However, I would suggest that a "generally agreed upon" definition of a "Stove" will help greatly in establishing "safety and for performance.stove standards". For example a wood burning "stove" that does not meet Canadian Standards Association (CSA) or Underwriters Laboratories (UL) Standards cannot be sold in Canada or the US, in that Insurance Companies will not insure a home or business in which they are installed. If for no other reason than being able to define the stove well enough to be able to select the correct Standard, a "stove definition" is important and necessary.

These Standards for safety and performance are very helpful. They can provide excellent guidance on how to design and install stove appliances so that they do not hurt people, or lead to house fires. 

The major interest in "Stoves" on the "Stove List" seems to be in "Cooking stoves in the Tropics."  However, there are places in the world where biomass fuelled space heaters are required.  What about  the following applications for biomass heating and cooking:
* Fireplace inserts
* Free standing space heating wood stoves
* Cooking ranges
* Wood heated hot water boilers

How should they fit in with the scheme of things?

best wishes,

Kevin

Best wishes,

Kevin


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Frank Shields 
  To: 'Kevin' ; 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves' 
  Cc: 'Jim Jetter' ; 'Hugh McLaughlin' ; 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves' 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:41 PM
  Subject: RE: Stove Definition


  Dear Kevin,

   

  The compost community gave up on a definition for compost after many attempts. Some have their own but they are never agreed upon by all as there are outliers of the norm. . 

  We just go along as if we all know what compost is. 

   

   

  Some interest in the biochar group to come up with a definition for biochar. It will never happen. : ) And it doesn’t matter. 

   

  I think the same with Stoves. 

   

  Regards

   

  Frank

   

   

  Thanks 

   

  Frank Shields

   

  BioChar Division

  Control Laboratories, Inc. 

  42 Hangar Way

  Watsonville, CE  95076

   

  (831) 724-5422 tel

  (81) 724-3188 fax

  frank at biocharlab.com

  www.controllabs.com

   

   


   

   

   

  From: Kevin [mailto:kchisholm at ca.inter.net] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:51 AM
  To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; Frank Shields
  Cc: 'Jim Jetter'; 'Hugh McLaughlin'; 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'
  Subject: Stove Definition

   

  Dear List

   

  Just what is a "stove?"

   

  I would suggest that it is important that we all know what a "stove" is, when we attempt to determine the difference between a "good stove" and a "poor stove.'

   

  When we ask Mr. Google, we get more than 7 million hits. However, the most common definitions seem to be typified by the one at

   http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stove

  " 1a : a portable or fixed apparatus that burns fuel or uses electricity to provide heat (as for cooking or heating) "

   

  At http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ , the stated purpose of the site is:

  "Our site is dedicated to helping people develop better stoves for cooking with biomass fuels in developing regions. "

   

  What about accepting the Merriam-Webster definition for a "stove?"

   

  Would anyone have a better definition for a "stove?"

   

  Best wishes,

   

  Kevin

   
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