[Stoves] Climate Panel Cites Near Certainty on Warming

[Paul Olivier]

Ron and Josh,

Take heart. An article appeared today in the New York Times entitled
"Welcome to the Age of Denial." The author, Adam Frank, puts things in
perspective quite nicely:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/opinion/welcome-to-the-age-of-denial.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130822
Frank is a professor of physics and astronomy at the University of
Rochester. The language that he uses is not the language of religion or
politics. It's the language of science, and yet it is, at times, tough and
brutal. Let me quote just a few lines:

*Meanwhile, climate deniers, taking pages from the creationists’ PR
playbook, have manufactured doubt about fundamental issues in climate
science that were decided scientifically decades ago.*..

*North Carolina has banned state planners from using climate data in their
projections of future sea levels...

>From one end of their educational trajectory to the other, our society told
these kids science was important. How confusing is it for them now, when
scientists receive death threats for simply doing honest research on our
planet’s climate history? *

I encourage everyone to read the entire article. Let no one try to take the
high road and say that climate issues should not influence the way we
design stoves.

Thanks.
Paul



On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Ronal W. Larson
<rongretlarson at comcast.net>wrote:

> Josh  cc list:
>
>    I hope you will reconsider, given the source:  a self professed climate
> denier.   Below is why the claimed "identical" ordinates is so diabolically
> clever.  Don't show the ordinate scale.  Present only the cherry picked
> data.  Don't show the fact that there is a long-term trend  (and recently a
> half degree C in about 30 years?).  Don't show ocean temperatures.
>
>
> Apologies to Andrew H. for this continuation - but it would seem part of
> the rules of fair play.
>
> I don't want to lose Josh, who is maybe not understanding that his
> departure might have been premeditated (too many "believers" on this list?)
>
>
>  Ron
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 21, 2013, at 11:43 PM, Josh Kearns <yeah.yeah.right.on at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> OK, I'm unsubscribing.
>
> JK
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <
> crispinpigott at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> “When somebody hits you with that new ‘IPCC is 95% certain’ talking
>> point on global warming, show them this<http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/20/when-somebody-hits-you-with-that-new-ipcc-is-95-certain-talking-point-show-them-this/#more-91971http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/20/when-somebody-hits-you-with-that-new-ipcc-is-95-certain-talking-point-show-them-this/>
>> ”****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Which of these two charts shows the global temperature from 1895 to 1946,
>> caused entirely natural variation, and which chart shows the global
>> temperature from 1957 to 2008 with the additional warming from
>> anthropogenic CO2 above and beyond the natural variation?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> <image001.jpg><http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/1895-1946_1957-2008_temperature-compare.png>
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Can you spot the human influence?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Crispin****
>>
>> ** **
>>
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