[Stoves] Climate Panel Cites Near Certainty on Warming

Paul Olivier paul.olivier at esrla.com
Fri Aug 23 18:28:23 CDT 2013


AJ,

You write:
*Paul, apart from goading the bull you consistently include unnecessary
reams of quoted text with your posts. This has not been commented on
[stoves] by others.

Please snip superfluous content and try to stay on topic.

*
I am not trying to goad the bull. When I insert quoted texts, this is a way
of underlining important points that the author is making. Surely this
cannot be controversial. I was staying on-topic: the topic was climate
change.* *I see no problem discussing policy issues as long as people
remain polite and civil.* *Using language such as "nonsense" to describe
the position of someone with a different view point of view is totally out
of place. It is hard to imagine that environmental issues do not impact the
way we design stoves. Let me give an example in the reverse sense.

Suppose that I believe that human activity has nothing to do with climate
change, global warming and ocean acidification, and that biochar does not
enhance plant growth, reduce water and fertilizer use, and lock away carbon
into the soil. These beliefs, no doubt, will influence my approach to stove
design. Based on these beliefs, why should I not design a TLUD that is
optimized to burn up all the char that it produces? Or I might even design
a second stove optimized for the burning char, and this second stove would
be ideal for the slow simmering of food. Later after all of this design
effort, I begin describing the details of these new designs to the stove
list. But I become so dismayed to find out that some people on the list do
believe in climate change and the benefits of biochar. Some even go so far
as to label my beliefs as nonsensical, and then I begin to doubt myself.
Perhaps all of the effort I made in coming up with these new designs was a
waste of time. So I then call upon the stove list to begin discussing the
policy and beliefs that underline stove design. As long as the members of
the stove list treat one another with respect, why not?

Many thanks.
Paul Olivier





On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 3:37 AM, <ajheggie at gmail.com> wrote:

> [Default] On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 07:59:48 +0700,Paul Olivier
> <paul.olivier at esrla.com> wrote one line of text and quoted a whole
> digest again:
>
>
> Paul, apart from goading the bull you consistently include unnecessary
> reams of quoted text with your posts. This has not been commented on
> [stoves] by others.
>
> Please snip superfluous content and try to stay on topic.
>
> AJH
>
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