[Stoves] Climate Panel Cites Near Certainty on Warming

[Paul Olivier]

Another New York Times article relating to climate change:
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/23/the-new-nuclear-craze/?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130824&_r=0


On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Paul Olivier <paul.olivier at esrla.com>wrote:

> AJ,
>
> You write:
> *Paul, apart from goading the bull you consistently include unnecessary
> reams of quoted text with your posts. This has not been commented on
> [stoves] by others.
>
> Please snip superfluous content and try to stay on topic.
>
> *
> I am not trying to goad the bull. When I insert quoted texts, this is a
> way of underlining important points that the author is making. Surely this
> cannot be controversial. I was staying on-topic: the topic was climate
> change.* *I see no problem discussing policy issues as long as people
> remain polite and civil.* *Using language such as "nonsense" to describe
> the position of someone with a different view point of view is totally out
> of place. It is hard to imagine that environmental issues do not impact the
> way we design stoves. Let me give an example in the reverse sense.
>
> Suppose that I believe that human activity has nothing to do with climate
> change, global warming and ocean acidification, and that biochar does not
> enhance plant growth, reduce water and fertilizer use, and lock away carbon
> into the soil. These beliefs, no doubt, will influence my approach to stove
> design. Based on these beliefs, why should I not design a TLUD that is
> optimized to burn up all the char that it produces? Or I might even design
> a second stove optimized for the burning char, and this second stove would
> be ideal for the slow simmering of food. Later after all of this design
> effort, I begin describing the details of these new designs to the stove
> list. But I become so dismayed to find out that some people on the list do
> believe in climate change and the benefits of biochar. Some even go so far
> as to label my beliefs as nonsensical, and then I begin to doubt myself.
> Perhaps all of the effort I made in coming up with these new designs was a
> waste of time. So I then call upon the stove list to begin discussing the
> policy and beliefs that underline stove design. As long as the members of
> the stove list treat one another with respect, why not?
>
> Many thanks.
> Paul Olivier
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 3:37 AM, <ajheggie at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> [Default] On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 07:59:48 +0700,Paul Olivier
>> <paul.olivier at esrla.com> wrote one line of text and quoted a whole
>> digest again:
>>
>>
>> Paul, apart from goading the bull you consistently include unnecessary
>> reams of quoted text with your posts. This has not been commented on
>> [stoves] by others.
>>
>> Please snip superfluous content and try to stay on topic.
>>
>> AJH
>>
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>
>
> --
> Paul A. Olivier PhD
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> Dalat
> Vietnam
>
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-- 
Paul A. Olivier PhD
26/5 Phu Dong Thien Vuong
Dalat
Vietnam

Louisiana telephone: 1-337-447-4124 (rings Vietnam)
Mobile: 090-694-1573 (in Vietnam)
Skype address: Xpolivier
http://www.esrla.com/
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