[Stoves] NY Times article on what fuel poor need.

Rogerio carneiro de miranda carneirodemiranda at gmail.com
Thu Dec 5 09:51:27 CST 2013


Agreeing with Ron.

Liquid biofuels, and specially ethanol can be an alternative cooking and
lighting fuel, either produced at large scale or at the community level
with micro-distilleries.

Project Gaia have demonstrated to me an efficient ethanol cookstove and
also an ethanol lamp, and I have seeing here ethanol power generators in
operation.

Here in Brazil ethanol produced at farm level can be around US$ 0,50 per
liter

Rogério


2013/12/4 Ronal W. Larson <rongretlarson at comcast.net>

> Nari and list:
>
>   1.   I write to disagree with your conclusion on fossil fuels.   They
> are “best” (in several senses, not including being cheaper) mainly because
> their externality costs are borne by all of society.
>
>    2.  I was surprised at first to see this view attributed to the NY
> Times.  This was the view of Bjorne Lomborg who claims not to be a climate
> skeptic - but sure writes like one.
>
>    3.  I do agree that kerosene has many advantages to go with their
> disadvantages.  A way to move to a majority of advantages is to call for
> liquid fuels rather than fossil fuels.    These can have a biomass origin,
> and (especially in rural areas) can also be cheaper.
>
> Ron
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2013, at 6:23 PM, nari phaltan <nariphaltan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi stovers,
>
> A recent NYT article echoes what we have observed while working with rural
> poor in India - they need excellent and convenient fuel for cooking and
> lighting. Sometimes fossil fuels are the best.
> www.nariphaltan.org/kerosene.pdf
>
> Here is the NYT article;
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/04/opinion/the-poor-need-cheap-fossil-fuels.html?hp&rref=opinion
>
> Cheers.
>
> Anil
>
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