[Stoves] ETHOS Discussion about decentalized stove efforts

Ben Blevins hspben at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 31 20:51:24 CST 2013


Deloitte contractors suggested decentralized for various reasons, there consulting was rejected because the finding did not reinforce the message of mass production and distribution by development industry players.

B


On Dec 31, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:

> Dear Paal, and all,
> 
> As much as I can agree with Paal's statements, but I think the cards are stacked against the success of decentralized efforts.
> 
> The issue that Paal raises about the need to have decentralized production of stoves (and fuels) is a touchy topic because the "model" of the affluent world is for centralized industrial production.   That centralized model is certainly a cornerstone of the GACC  and WB and many who feel that the model of the affluent world will work to resolve major issues in the developing world. And they control access to most of the funding.   And they present very convincing arguments.   (If they could not, they would not be in control of the situation.)
> 
> It would be good to have some examples of decentralized efforts having major impacts.   Maybe the spread of the Kenyan ceramic jiko (KCJ) is one example.
> 
> I will be at ETHOS and willing for such discussions if others step forward wanting to discuss this informally as an ad hoc sub-group.
> 
> Paul
> 
> Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
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> On 12/31/2013 10:15 AM, paaw at online.no wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 08:12:54 -0700,
>> stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org wrote:
>> 
>>> Due to health and age it will not be possible for me to participate, but after 30 years working with task and followed the discussion at Stove list I have come to this conclusion.
>>> 
>>> There has to be a discussion at ETHOS about centralized or decentralized activities regarding fuel and stove production with a view on the enormous unemployment in developing countries. Taken into consideration the high demands of clean combustion, pellets will be the future biomass fuel for simple clean burning such as TLUD ND and FD. Energy forestry and agriculture energy production together collection of waste biomass of different types will give a lot of new needed jobs.
>>> 
>>> ·         Registration of local waste combustible biomass.
>>> 
>>> ·         Use of local resources
>>> 
>>> ·         Biochar production by cooking.
>>> 
>>> That will be the best way for GACC Stove program to support the low income groups all around the worl
>>> 
>>> Best regards Paal Wendelbo paaw at online.no
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