[Stoves] Second report from Phnom Penh

Thu Mar 21 22:35:38 CDT 2013

Jed, Ron, Paul, 

Many thanks for sending us these reports and pictures from the conference. 

Please give my regards to Ms. Sununtar Setboonsarng whom I met at the
biochar conference in Kyoto in 2011. 

Kind regards,

Tom

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Subject: [Stoves] Second report from Phnom Penh

HI All

This is Jed Guinto from the Philippines also at the GACC conference here at
Phnom Penh. Hi Ron... i did not meet you yet... but met Dean Still and
briefly Christa Rot. Im so happy to be here and finally meet all the
geniuses of the stove sector. I also had the chance to chat with Crispin
Pembertton Pigott and had a handful of advice and exchange of news. 

Then i met people from GERES, the French NGO. The conversation with Iwan
Baskoro was very fruitful because he laid out the history of their efforts
in the Philippines, on which i may build upon. 

I joined the session on the Stoves Health and Sanitation. The diiscussion
went deep into behavior change and bio char among others. The presentation
of Mr. Larry Sthreshley from his work in Congo talked about the connection
of cookstoves into food security, and that is through biochar. 

The call for biochar again resounded during the breakout group session for
SouthEast Asia. The moderator, Ms. Sununtar Stboonsarng of ADB, at the end
of the session made the remark... suggesting that the GACC put particular
focus on bio char. It is because it would be the link of the stoves to
health, sanitation and water. 

I had a grand time over the exhibits.... the Onil Stove, the
EnviroFit.....the Solar cookers and ovens and also had a  nice photo with
Dean Still.. He is a big man indeed... in his deeds and in his size. It
would have been nice to see an exhibit by the BioLite, but it was not there
.

On Thursday, i will join the site visit to the sugar processing station
where they use solar power. I would like to follow a hybrid model of a stove
and solar power coming together.

Hope to meet more of you in the conference. 

Jed 

2013/3/20 <rongretlarson at comcast.net>

Hi again all  (adding Dean Still)

1.  Very good opening plenary with lead off by UC Berkeley Prof Kirk Smith -
the most well known world expert in stove health topics (Household Air
Pollution (HAP) now #4 killer - about 4 million per year.  Emphasized
difficulty of making changes.  He was followed by U Illinois professor Tami
Bond, who was the main speaker at the last Ethos conference and who has also
done a lot of stove testing.

2.  I then attended a breakout session chaired by Christa Roth of GIZ.  She
also was at last ETHOS meeting and has great summary book on char-making and
gasifier stoves.  Great talk by Paul Means of Burn Lab (Seattle) on the
(mostly transportation) reasons NOT to work with charcoal made in remote
areas.

3.   I missed the next plenary on major country GACC programs, but attended
a well-done breakout survey of stove activities in China.
Here Dean Still raved about the capabilities of the Chinese stove community.
In particular the Stove Tec main Chinese partner was there (Mr.  Chen or
Shen).  Apparently there is little activity with char-making stoves (I will
try to get Dean's view on that).  But at the same Chinese meeting today,   I
met several groups that are working in China on char-making stoves. GACC
might have a list of Chinese stove manufacturers.
   Talked with several Chinese forestry  experts (and China is doing quite
well in  this area)..

4.  Tonight was the main banquet - during most of which we were entertained
by 25-30 young Cambodian folk dancers/musicians..

 5.   Afterwards,  I visited the small display area of stoves - maybe 20 in
all and maybe 5 were char making.  Gustavo Pena of El Salvador showed me a
char-making stove of his own design with lots of "attachments"  (including
an oven)  [couldn't find a website].  Also saw several stoves being sold in
China by Dylan Maxwell of Novotera and Planetstove. More coming on this.

Again I hope others will jump in.

Ron

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Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:19:14 AM
Subject: First report from Phnom Penh

Hi to two lists  (with 6 ccs)

  1.  This written at end of "first" day of conference.  Actually the
official first GACC day is tomorrow, but today was also the second day of
pre-conference activities..  List members active on these two lists, here
(and shown on the "to" list), who I hope will add more are Priya Karve, Paul
Anderson and Crispin Pemberton-Piggott.  I missed the first day - Sunday -
returning from Siem Reap  - home of Angkor Wat.   This is definitely the
most impressive world heritage site I have seen or could imagine.  Uniformly
impressed by the Cambodian people.

  2.  My overall impression is that very few attendees know much about
biochar nor char-making stoves.  Of course most everyone knows something
about stoves -  although I would guess that fewer than half have been
involved for more than a year or two  Heard tonight that there are 650
registrants.  Great conference facilities;  no conference registration fee
and fair number of freebie meals, coffee-break treats etc.

 3.  My first surprise char-making stove encounter was with Sonta Kauti, a
Zambian with "Emerging Cooking Solutions"  - whose stove can be seen at
www.emerging.se.  I have not yet seen the actual stove, nor yet know its
pricing - but plan more talks with Sonta

  4.  Next was a short encounter with Ruben Walker of "African Clean Energy"
(see http://www.ace.co.ls/), now manufacturing in Lesotho the "Philips" fan
stove developed by Paul van der Sluis (PvdS).  This has been identified as
having the best performance characteristics so far tested.  This was my
first chance to hold one - and it looks exceptionally well made.  A surprise
was the set of 10 or 12 (?) flat ceramic liner pieces for the interior
(maybe 1 cm thick??).  Presumably long life time - being non-metal.   Ruben
said one could hold the outside of the stove after an hour of cooking
-possible because there are  four concentric metal cylinders (three
concentric air gaps).   This stove is not char making - but I remember
hearing that PvdS regularly operates it as a charcoal-maker.   Cost in
neighborhood of $70.

 5. Later, at this evening's reception,  Mr. Adrian Padt of "Rocket Works"
introduced himself  (see http://www.rocketworks.org/  - including photo of
Adrian).  This is the stove with the interesting heavy wire mesh exterior
that we discussed a few months ago - also can be held.   This also looked
exceptionally well made and rugged.  Cost in the neighborhood of $50.   In
addition to the version seen at the site, they are now adding a door to
better control excess air.

  6. I attended a day-long session put on by the World Bank and the Asian
Development Bank.- the emphasis was on country organizations in this region.
Crispin was on what I thought the best panel - on testing, etc. This is to
hope that Priya,  Paul, and Crispin (and anyone else from these lists here
in Phnom Penh) will also add their early summary thoughts.

Any questions I/we can try to answer?

Ron

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