[Stoves] In praise of kerosene

Legacy Mail rstanley at legacyfound.org
Sun May 12 14:02:28 CDT 2013


paul, What you want us to actually use biomass for ourselves....preposterous  But essential frankly. 
we just past the reported tipping point of 400 ppm co2 apparently.

Richard Stanley
www.legacyfound.org

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On May 11, 2013, at 19:19, Paul Olivier <paul.olivier at esrla.com> wrote:

> Anil,
> 
> I really think that we are coming close to the day when biomass stoves could be installed in modern kitchens. If biomass fuel has a relatively high bulk density, if it is uniform in grain size, if it is below 12% in moisture, (in other word, if it's well prepared), it could be gasified or pryrolized in such a manner that it could produce a gas that could compete with the gas derived from fossil fuels that are now being burned in modern kitchens. It's not enough that we design biomass stoves for poor people. We should be using them ourselves.
> 
> I say to the entire stove community. Wake up. Design biomass stoves that you would be proud to use in your own kitchens. Do not just worry about the respiratory health of poor people. Think equally about the much bigger picture of the health of our entire planet that profoundly impacts rich and poor alike. Every time we turn on a modern gas appliance, we are contributing to global warming. Let us do all within our power to put an end to this nonsense.
> 
> Paul Olivier
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 7:25 AM, nari phaltan <nariphaltan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Erin for your kind words. I do hope our lanstove spreads. 
>> 
>> One of the great lessons of Mahatma Gandhi was that he preached what he practiced  Thus it will be interesting for all those people who vehemently oppose lanstove type technology to switch to woodstove cooking and solar lanterns in their own houses rather than doing it on gas and electricity ( both produce extensive GHGs).
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> 
>> Anil
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Erin Rasmussen <erin at trmiles.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Anil,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your article.
>>> 
>>> I found that you also have an excellent description of your Lanstove here:
>>> http://www.nariphaltan.org/kerolanstove.pdf
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry that our conversation got so off-track, this is obviously an
>>> improvement over the wick kerosene lantern that contributes a lot of black
>>> carbon and soot to our atmosphere.
>>> 
>>> At ETHOS this year, Tammi Bond, who just wrapped up an extensive study on
>>> black carbon, identified improving the wick stove as the single biggest
>>> impact on black carbon emissions that we could make.
>>> Tammi's slides are here:
>>> http://www.vrac.iastate.edu/ethos/files/ethos2013/Lecture%20Hall/Saturday%20
>>> PM/2013%20Ethos%20Keynote.pdf
>>> 
>>> So - improving the lanterns, the lighting, and the stoves are all good aims,
>>> and I'd like to see us do what we can to actually help people in with
>>> improved light and cooking and other energy needs.
>>> 
>>> That said, the Chulhas stove is not the best biomass stove we can make.  We
>>> have learned a lot about making good stoves since the Chulha was designed,
>>> and it's time for us to bring those improvements to the many households in
>>> India and around the world that need them.
>>> 
>>> OK, that said, I'd like to see us get back to making a real difference in
>>> the quality of life of many people around the world.  We don't have time to
>>> waste arguing each other, when we can be developing and improving good
>>> stoves and bringing those stoves to the people that need them.
>>> 
>>> Erin Rasmussen
>>> STOVES LIST ADMIN
>>> erin at trmiles.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Nariphaltan
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 9:52 PM
>>> To: stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
>>> Subject: [Stoves] In praise of kerosene
>>> 
>>> Some of you maybe interested in reading this article.
>>> Www.nariphaltan.org/kerosene.pdf
>>> 
>>> Cheers.
>>> 
>>> Anil K Rajvanshi
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> 
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