[Stoves] stoves by the millions

Paul Olivier paul.olivier at esrla.com
Thu May 30 17:01:33 CDT 2013


Art,

Not long ago I made reactor using refractory ceramic pipe. This pipe is
designed to handle molten metal and is supposed to withstand temperatures
up to 1,750 C. In less than two minutes into a TLUD burn with rice hulls,
it cracked. It is hard to imagine that a reef-formed reactor will last very
long.

Paul Olivier


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Art Donnelly <art.donnelly at seachar.org>wrote:

> Crispin,
> That has to be just about these most imaginative stove building idea I
> have heard in years. The Estufa Finca_Talamanca project is located on the
> Caribbean coast of C.R. I think we would have just about the perfect
> environment to try this in. I am up in the 'states right now, but I am
> going to forward your suggestion to our team down there. We'll see how
> quick we can test this out. Can you send any links on this to flesh-out my
> understanding of how to do this right?
> Thanks
> A.D.
>
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM, <stoves-request at lists.bioenergylists.org>wrote:
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>> I have know Dr Tom Goreau since about  2007 and we have the first and only
>> suscessful bio rock structure in the Marshall Island However it would not
>> be
>> fire proof in any way to my knowledge.  I will check with Tom. just few
>> month ago we thru another long exchang because my father made under water
>> colo films in the Bahamas in the 1950's and Tom was tracing photos to try
>> and record hisotrical change over 50 years or more.  Othe stucture we have
>> considered. I eve sugesste modular housing unit like 12 x 12 rooms.
>>
>> Michael
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>> -- Original Message -----
>> From: "Crispin Pemberton-Pigott" <crispinpigott at gmail.com>
>> To: "Stoves" <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
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>> > Dear Michael
>> >
>> > Do you remember the conversation a few years ago about clay and the
>> > difficulty you had sourcing any?  Without raw material it is difficult
>> to
>> > make a fired part.
>> >
>> > How about using DC power and a wire mesh to grow parts in the ocean?
>> They
>> > do that in Dominica in the Caribbean. There are reefs made that way and
>> > one could grow a complex stove body using only solar panels and sea
>> water.
>> >
>> > There are some very dense materials that can be made this way if it is
>> > done slowly. I have a couple of samples from the early 90's.
>> >
>> > It would burn and be affected by the fire after a while but it can be
>> > locally made without having to carve or shape it. Just use wire mesh and
>> > make whatever shape you want and connect it to the DC power. Calcium
>> > deposits on it. In theory you could make complex parts with air holes
>> and
>> > pot rests.
>> >
>> > It is the ultimate lazy man's to build thing like furniture and fences.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Crispin in Beijing's 31 deg. What a change from the snow.
>> >>From BB9900
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