[Stoves] stoves by the millions

Thu May 30 21:08:07 CDT 2013

True but as we head along you might be able to "grow" a truly nice stove body to house an internal insulated burner or rocket elbow bedded in vermicuite or pumice power. 

There is some room for serious thought here 

Michael N Trevor 

Marshall Island 

> Art,
>
> Not long ago I made reactor using refractory ceramic pipe. This pipe is designed to handle molten metal and is supposed to withstand temperatures up to 1,750 C. In less than two minutes into a TLUD burn with rice hulls, it cracked. It is hard to imagine that a reef-formed reactor will last very long.
>
> Paul Olivier
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Art Donnelly <art.donnelly at seachar.org> wrote:
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>
> > Crispin,
> > That has to be just about these most imaginative stove building idea I have heard in years. The Estufa Finca_Talamanca project is located on the Caribbean coast of C.R. I think we would have just about the perfect environment to try this in. I am up in the 'states right now, but I am going to forward your suggestion to our team down there. We'll see how quick we can test this out. Can you send any links on this to flesh-out my understanding of how to do this right?
> > Thanks
> > A.D.
> >
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> > > Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 12:49:34 -0700
> > > From: "mtrevor" <mtrevor at ntamar.net>
> > > To: <crispinpigott at gmail.com>, "'Discussion of biomass cooking
> > >         stoves'"        <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Stoves] stoves by the millions
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> > > I have know Dr Tom Goreau since about  2007 and we have the first and only
> > > suscessful bio rock structure in the Marshall Island However it would not be
> > > fire proof in any way to my knowledge.  I will check with Tom. just few
> > > month ago we thru another long exchang because my father made under water
> > > colo films in the Bahamas in the 1950's and Tom was tracing photos to try
> > > and record hisotrical change over 50 years or more.  Othe stucture we have
> > > considered. I eve sugesste modular housing unit like 12 x 12 rooms.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > -- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Crispin Pemberton-Pigott" <crispinpigott at gmail.com>
> > > To: "Stoves" <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 7:33 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Stoves] stoves by the millions
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> > >
> > > > Dear Michael
> > > >
> > > > Do you remember the conversation a few years ago about clay and the
> > > > difficulty you had sourcing any?  Without raw material it is difficult to
> > > > make a fired part.
> > > >
> > > > How about using DC power and a wire mesh to grow parts in the ocean? They
> > > > do that in Dominica in the Caribbean. There are reefs made that way and
> > > > one could grow a complex stove body using only solar panels and sea water.
> > > >
> > > > There are some very dense materials that can be made this way if it is
> > > > done slowly. I have a couple of samples from the early 90's.
> > > >
> > > > It would burn and be affected by the fire after a while but it can be
> > > > locally made without having to carve or shape it. Just use wire mesh and
> > > > make whatever shape you want and connect it to the DC power. Calcium
> > > > deposits on it. In theory you could make complex parts with air holes and
> > > > pot rests.
> > > >
> > > > It is the ultimate lazy man's to build thing like furniture and fences.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Crispin in Beijing's 31 deg. What a change from the snow.
> > > >>From BB9900
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> > > > -----Original Message-----
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