[Stoves] Stoves Digest, Vol 39, Issue 11
David Osborne
celsius4u at hotmail.com
Tue Nov 12 14:46:09 CST 2013
Dear Stovers,
After seeing the tragedy unfold yet again in the Philippines I would like to put the Jompy forward as both a water pasteuriser and a fuel saving device creating a sturdy pot stand for the cooking vessels. A fire as basic as a 3 stone or even a basic jiko, even a tlud gasifier can be used. The last time I offered I was told send CASH! This time I hope this will not be the case. Any interest please contact me on 00441292318194
UK landline.
The jompy has an immediate effect and is currently saving fuel and time in many communities. It has a place in the disaster scenario.
David Osborne,
Technical Director
00441292318194 office Uk
00447801239525 mobile
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> 1. Re: In search for a stove model for the disaster in the
> Philippines (Erin Rasmussen)
> 2. Re: In search for a stove model for the disaster in the
> Philippines (Jonathan P Gill)
> 3. Re: In search for a stove model for the disaster in the
> Philippines (Crispin Pemberton-Pigott)
> 4. Re: In search for a stove model for the disasterin the
> Philippines (Lanny Henson)
> 5. Re: In search for a stove model for the disasterin the
> Philippines (Joshua Guinto)
> 6. Re: In search for a stove model for the disaster inthe
> Philippines (Robert Taylor)
> 7. Re: In search for a stove model for the disaster inthe
> Philippines (nari phaltan)
> 8. Re: In search for a stove model for the disaster in the
> Philippines (reb-kees)
> 9. Re: In search for a stove model for the disaster in the
> Philippines (Erin Rasmussen)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:48:12 -0800
> From: "Erin Rasmussen" <erin at trmiles.com>
> To: "'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'"
> <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] In search for a stove model for the disaster in
> the Philippines
> Message-ID: <010a01cedf16$f4f45190$dedcf4b0$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> The Midge is also a good gasifier made with simple tools, and can be made
> out of scavanged cans. It's not overly safe but it's a good temporary
> technology
> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/stovesdoc/midge/THE_COMPLETE_MIDGE.pdf
>
>
>
> Japanese style cone kilns for biochar are also quick to assemble, and can be
> used with tree branches, vines and other misc sources of wood. It helps to
> have dry material, but this style of biochar maker is more tolerant of wet
> material than the TLUD oven designs:
> http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/Wilson-Cone-Kiln
>
>
>
> Dr Reddy's Good Stove designs are also quick to assemble from cans and other
> material that you may/may not have easy access to http://www.goodstove.com/
>
>
>
> There's also the SODIS method for pasteurizing drinking water. If you have 6
> hours of sunlight, you can use a simple fabric filter to get water clear
> enough and use a plastic bottle and some reflective metal to pasteurize it:
> http://www.sodis.ch/methode/anwendung/index_EN
>
>
>
> Keep in mind that the pasteurization temperature of water is lower than the
> boiling temperature. If the initial water is clean enough, a lot of fuel can
> be saved just by bringing it up to the right temperature. Here's a link to
> a chart for the temps at which most common pathogens can be killed:
>
> http://solarcooking.wikia.com/wiki/Water_pasteurization
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Erin Rasmussen
>
> Stoves Discussion List
>
> erin at trmiles.com
>
>
>
> From: Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of
> Joshua Guinto
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 11:16 PM
> To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
> Subject: [Stoves] In search for a stove model for the disaster in the
> Philippines
>
>
>
> Dear All
>
>
>
> Im writing to you all in trying to contribute to the recent series of
> disasters in my country. A strong typhoon in October, followed by a strong
> earthquake in Bohol and now a supertyphoon In November in the Visayas
> region.
>
>
>
> I would like to contribute to the ongoing relief operations by way of the
> stoves that will quickly respond to the trauma of the typhoon victims. I
> believe that there would already be mature models in our network and there
> so many, i do not know where to begin and which model is best.
>
>
>
> Im in search for a stove model that can be quickly manufactured in a local
> shop. i have a good friend in Cebu City, who has a metal and foundry shop
> and he is confident that he can bring his shop to a large scale production
> including stamping the metal parts.
>
>
>
> It is a stove that can produce bio char. the bio char i hope to create water
> filters which the people can make themselves. The clean cookstove making
> biochar can be a life saving device as it can help people cook their food
> and produce their clean water while waiting for the relief aids. It should
> also be one that can be used with wood sticks as most people do not have
> access to pelletizing or briquetting machines and wood sticks are abundant
> after the typhoons.
>
>
>
> I am almost describing my own holey roket stove that makes bio char however,
> my model is too heavy, brittle and will take a month before it is ready for
> use.
>
>
>
> Going further, the bio char can also be used to reduce the diseases from the
> evacuation center. I recently learned how to collect and multiply indigenous
> microorganisms (IMO) using local materials. It is a liquid fortified with
> beneficial soil organisms. I intend to test it ,along with the bio char in
> the toilets in the evacuation centers.
>
>
>
> There are already several humanitarian groups moving to the disaster areas
> and i hope to mainstream these technologies in their efforts.
>
>
>
> Your advice is most appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jed Guinto
>
> Philippines
>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 15:31:20 -0500
> From: Jonathan P Gill <jg45 at icloud.com>
> To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
> <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] In search for a stove model for the disaster in
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> All,
>
> Here is another way to use tin cans to cook. Altho it is aimed more at education than disaster relief efforts. Could be used for both?
>
> http://www.greaterdemocracy.org/archives/1622
>
> Regards,
>
> Jock
>
>
>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 5:15 AM, Joshua Guinto <jed.building.bridges at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Michael. I clearly remember Dr. Paul's foldable TLUDs. I observed him demonstrate it in Cambodia last March. Thanks again.
>>
>>
>> 2013/11/11 <mtrevor at ntamar.net>
>> I would suggesty you look into liasoning with Dr Tlud (Paul Anderson) of some sorth of arrngement
>>
>> on flat pacs for the quad stove or diagrams and plans. If you have the shops he has the plans.
>>
>> Tin canium Rocket stoves with say ash insulation would be cheap and fast but no charcoal.
>>
>> Good luck and I hope someone has more concrete suggestions.
>>
>> Michael N Trevor
>>
>> Majuro, Marshall Islands
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 15:31:03 -0500
> From: "Crispin Pemberton-Pigott" <crispinpigott at gmail.com>
> To: "'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'"
> <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] In search for a stove model for the disaster in
> the Philippines
> Message-ID: <052401cedf1c$f21fed20$d65fc760$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Dear All
>
>
>
> Thanks to Erin for that list - very helpful.
>
>
>
> Priante UTami, who is at YDD in Indonesia and how is a subscriber on this
> list has a lot of info on SODIS. I am wondering if there is some web-based
> material from YDD.
>
>
>
> After a big storm there is always a lot of pretty dry construction timber
> around, with rain on it. Efficiency is not a big issue because there is so
> much, but getting it made quickly is.
>
>
>
> Don't forget the Peko Pe which is easy to make and can to a certain extent
> be refuelled easily. I believe there are some drawings on line (if someone
> still has electricity).
>
>
>
> Regards
> Crispin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The Midge is also a good gasifier made with simple tools, and can be made
> out of scavanged cans. It's not overly safe but it's a good temporary
> technology
> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/stovesdoc/midge/THE_COMPLETE_MIDGE.pdf
>
>
>
> Japanese style cone kilns for biochar are also quick to assemble, and can be
> used with tree branches, vines and other misc sources of wood. It helps to
> have dry material, but this style of biochar maker is more tolerant of wet
> material than the TLUD oven designs:
> http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/Wilson-Cone-Kiln
>
>
>
> Dr Reddy's Good Stove designs are also quick to assemble from cans and other
> material that you may/may not have easy access to http://www.goodstove.com/
>
>
>
> There's also the SODIS method for pasteurizing drinking water. If you have 6
> hours of sunlight, you can use a simple fabric filter to get water clear
> enough and use a plastic bottle and some reflective metal to pasteurize it:
> http://www.sodis.ch/methode/anwendung/index_EN
>
>
>
> Keep in mind that the pasteurization temperature of water is lower than the
> boiling temperature. If the initial water is clean enough, a lot of fuel can
> be saved just by bringing it up to the right temperature. Here's a link to
> a chart for the temps at which most common pathogens can be killed:
>
> http://solarcooking.wikia.com/wiki/Water_pasteurization
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Erin Rasmussen
>
> Stoves Discussion List
>
> erin at trmiles.com <mailto:erin at trmiles.com>
>
>
>
> From: Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of
> Joshua Guinto
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 11:16 PM
> To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
> Subject: [Stoves] In search for a stove model for the disaster in the
> Philippines
>
>
>
> Dear All
>
>
>
> Im writing to you all in trying to contribute to the recent series of
> disasters in my country. A strong typhoon in October, followed by a strong
> earthquake in Bohol and now a supertyphoon In November in the Visayas
> region.
>
>
>
> I would like to contribute to the ongoing relief operations by way of the
> stoves that will quickly respond to the trauma of the typhoon victims. I
> believe that there would already be mature models in our network and there
> so many, i do not know where to begin and which model is best.
>
>
>
> Im in search for a stove model that can be quickly manufactured in a local
> shop. i have a good friend in Cebu City, who has a metal and foundry shop
> and he is confident that he can bring his shop to a large scale production
> including stamping the metal parts.
>
>
>
> It is a stove that can produce bio char. the bio char i hope to create water
> filters which the people can make themselves. The clean cookstove making
> biochar can be a life saving device as it can help people cook their food
> and produce their clean water while waiting for the relief aids. It should
> also be one that can be used with wood sticks as most people do not have
> access to pelletizing or briquetting machines and wood sticks are abundant
> after the typhoons.
>
>
>
> I am almost describing my own holey roket stove that makes bio char however,
> my model is too heavy, brittle and will take a month before it is ready for
> use.
>
>
>
> Going further, the bio char can also be used to reduce the diseases from the
> evacuation center. I recently learned how to collect and multiply indigenous
> microorganisms (IMO) using local materials. It is a liquid fortified with
> beneficial soil organisms. I intend to test it ,along with the bio char in
> the toilets in the evacuation centers.
>
>
>
> There are already several humanitarian groups moving to the disaster areas
> and i hope to mainstream these technologies in their efforts.
>
>
>
> Your advice is most appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jed Guinto
>
> Philippines
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 17:58:19 -0500
> From: "Lanny Henson" <lannych at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves"
> <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] In search for a stove model for the disasterin
> the Philippines
> Message-ID: <DDE8FD43FF434EDCB2339790EB0F448F at HP>
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>
>> After a big storm there is always a lot of pretty dry construction timber around, with rain on it. Efficiency is not a big issue because there is so much, but getting it made quickly is.
>
>
>
> Lanny-These battered people are not going to cross cut construction timber for a batch-fueled stove, they need a stick burner.
>
> They need a stick burner that will burn damp fuel and large sticks, while maintaining a small, hot, clean burning fire.
>
>
>
> What do you think?-Lanny
>
>
>
> From: Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
>
> To: 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] In search for a stove model for the disasterin the Philippines
>
>
> Dear All
>
>
>
> Thanks to Erin for that list - very helpful.
>
>
>
> Priante UTami, who is at YDD in Indonesia and how is a subscriber on this list has a lot of info on SODIS. I am wondering if there is some web-based material from YDD.
>
>
>
> After a big storm there is always a lot of pretty dry construction timber around, with rain on it. Efficiency is not a big issue because there is so much, but getting it made quickly is.
>
>
>
> Don't forget the Peko Pe which is easy to make and can to a certain extent be refuelled easily. I believe there are some drawings on line (if someone still has electricity).
>
>
>
> Regards
> Crispin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The Midge is also a good gasifier made with simple tools, and can be made out of scavanged cans. It's not overly safe but it's a good temporary technology http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/stovesdoc/midge/THE_COMPLETE_MIDGE.pdf
>
>
>
> Japanese style cone kilns for biochar are also quick to assemble, and can be used with tree branches, vines and other misc sources of wood. It helps to have dry material, but this style of biochar maker is more tolerant of wet material than the TLUD oven designs: http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/Wilson-Cone-Kiln
>
>
>
> Dr Reddy's Good Stove designs are also quick to assemble from cans and other material that you may/may not have easy access to http://www.goodstove.com/
>
>
>
> There's also the SODIS method for pasteurizing drinking water. If you have 6 hours of sunlight, you can use a simple fabric filter to get water clear enough and use a plastic bottle and some reflective metal to pasteurize it: http://www.sodis.ch/methode/anwendung/index_EN
>
>
>
> Keep in mind that the pasteurization temperature of water is lower than the boiling temperature. If the initial water is clean enough, a lot of fuel can be saved just by bringing it up to the right temperature. Here's a link to a chart for the temps at which most common pathogens can be killed:
>
> http://solarcooking.wikia.com/wiki/Water_pasteurization
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 08:09:59 +0800
> From: Joshua Guinto <jed.building.bridges at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
> <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] In search for a stove model for the disasterin
> the Philippines
> Message-ID:
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> DEar Erin
>
> Thanks a lot for all the links. Some people have also responded to my
> call and i will try to synergize everything to come up with the most
> effective approach.
>
> Regards
>
> Jed
>
> 2013/11/12, Lanny Henson <lannych at bellsouth.net>:
>>> After a big storm there is always a lot of pretty dry construction timber
>>> around, with rain on it. Efficiency is not a big issue because there is so
>>> much, but getting it made quickly is.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lanny-These battered people are not going to cross cut construction timber
>> for a batch-fueled stove, they need a stick burner.
>>
>> They need a stick burner that will burn damp fuel and large sticks, while
>> maintaining a small, hot, clean burning fire.
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you think?-Lanny
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
>>
>> To: 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'
>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 3:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Stoves] In search for a stove model for the disasterin the
>> Philippines
>>
>>
>> Dear All
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks to Erin for that list - very helpful.
>>
>>
>>
>> Priante UTami, who is at YDD in Indonesia and how is a subscriber on this
>> list has a lot of info on SODIS. I am wondering if there is some web-based
>> material from YDD.
>>
>>
>>
>> After a big storm there is always a lot of pretty dry construction timber
>> around, with rain on it. Efficiency is not a big issue because there is so
>> much, but getting it made quickly is.
>>
>>
>>
>> Don't forget the Peko Pe which is easy to make and can to a certain extent
>> be refuelled easily. I believe there are some drawings on line (if someone
>> still has electricity).
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Crispin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The Midge is also a good gasifier made with simple tools, and can be made
>> out of scavanged cans. It's not overly safe but it's a good temporary
>> technology
>> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/stovesdoc/midge/THE_COMPLETE_MIDGE.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> Japanese style cone kilns for biochar are also quick to assemble, and can
>> be used with tree branches, vines and other misc sources of wood. It helps
>> to have dry material, but this style of biochar maker is more tolerant of
>> wet material than the TLUD oven designs:
>> http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/Wilson-Cone-Kiln
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr Reddy's Good Stove designs are also quick to assemble from cans and
>> other material that you may/may not have easy access to
>> http://www.goodstove.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> There's also the SODIS method for pasteurizing drinking water. If you have
>> 6 hours of sunlight, you can use a simple fabric filter to get water clear
>> enough and use a plastic bottle and some reflective metal to pasteurize it:
>> http://www.sodis.ch/methode/anwendung/index_EN
>>
>>
>>
>> Keep in mind that the pasteurization temperature of water is lower than
>> the boiling temperature. If the initial water is clean enough, a lot of fuel
>> can be saved just by bringing it up to the right temperature. Here's a link
>> to a chart for the temps at which most common pathogens can be killed:
>>
>> http://solarcooking.wikia.com/wiki/Water_pasteurization
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 08:33:33 +0800
> From: "Robert Taylor" <rt at ms1.hinet.net>
> To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves"
> <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] In search for a stove model for the disaster
> inthe Philippines
> Message-ID: <19F719759962452D96056D0D8D780B35 at your09e370bd75>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> A niggling point: SODIS is NOT pasteurization. As far as I understand, it works largely by ultraviolet irradiation, along with a degree of temperature elevation well short of pasteurization temperatures. According to information (promoting pasteurization) that I have read online, it is less effective than pasteurization, which can also be achieved without fuel by using solar heating. However, SODIS is clearly far better than nothing, and it can be implemented straight away by the direct use of easily available equipment (plastic bottles and a bit of cloth).
>
> Robert Taylor
>
> There's also the SODIS method for pasteurizing drinking water. If you have 6 hours of sunlight, you can use a simple fabric filter to get water clear enough and use a plastic bottle and some reflective metal to pasteurize it: http://www.sodis.ch/methode/anwendung/index_EN
>
>
>
> Keep in mind that the pasteurization temperature of water is lower than the boiling temperature. If the initial water is clean enough, a lot of fuel can be saved just by bringing it up to the right temperature. Here's a link to a chart for the temps at which most common pathogens can be killed:
>
> http://solarcooking.wikia.com/wiki/Water_pasteurization
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Erin Rasmussen
>
> Stoves Discussion List
>
> erin at trmiles.com
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> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 06:15:43 +0530
> From: nari phaltan <nariphaltan at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
> <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] In search for a stove model for the disaster
> inthe Philippines
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> A very simple way to sterlize water has been developed by us.
> www.nariphaltan.org/watersterlization.pdf
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Robert Taylor <rt at ms1.hinet.net> wrote:
>>
>> A niggling point: SODIS is NOT pasteurization. As far as I understand,
>> it works largely by ultraviolet irradiation, along with a degree of
>> temperature elevation well short of pasteurization temperatures. According
>> to information (promoting pasteurization) that I have read online, it is
>> less effective than pasteurization, which can also be achieved without fuel
>> by using solar heating. However, SODIS is clearly far better than nothing,
>> and it can be implemented straight away by the direct use of easily
>> available equipment (plastic bottles and a bit of cloth).
>>
>> Robert Taylor
>>
>>
>>
>> There's also the SODIS method for pasteurizing drinking water. If you have
>> 6 hours of sunlight, you can use a simple fabric filter to get water clear
>> enough and use a plastic bottle and some reflective metal to pasteurize it:
>> http://www.sodis.ch/methode/anwendung/index_EN
>>
>>
>>
>> Keep in mind that the pasteurization temperature of water is lower than
>> the boiling temperature. If the initial water is clean enough, a lot of
>> fuel can be saved just by bringing it up to the right temperature. Here's
>> a link to a chart for the temps at which most common pathogens can be
>> killed:
>>
>> http://solarcooking.wikia.com/wiki/Water_pasteurization
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Erin Rasmussen
>>
>> Stoves Discussion List
>>
>> erin at trmiles.com
>>
>>
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> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 23:23:12 -0700 (MST)
> From: reb-kees <ravermeer at telus.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Stoves] In search for a stove model for the disaster in
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> Dear All &Sanya,
> Thank you, Sanya,?for remembering me and my family in Dumaguete, Negros Oriental.? Felipa Beach sustained structural damage during the October storm and earthquake but fortunately survived typhoon Haiyan without any further damage.? The Eco-Kalan Project?and our partner, the 302nd Infantry?Brigade of the Philippines Army, are?preparing to deploy?six large Eco-Kalan-C? each to critical emergency shelters in??Central Visayas.?? From our experience, six Eco-Kalan-C can cook enough food for 1,000 people at mealtime.? We?are?looking at this time?for?large capacity pots and woks such as the ones we used at the July Approvecho stove camp (40-60 liter capacity); ?and portable biomass stoves that can hold?these cooking vessels and can? cook?continuously??large volumes of food for long periods of time.? Do you know who can donate these large capacity cooking vessels and stoves??Thanks,
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> Rebecca
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> From: "Erin Rasmussen" <erin at trmiles.com>
> To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 11:48:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] In search for a stove model for the disaster in????????the????????Philippines
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> The Midge is also a good gasifier made with simple tools, and can be made out of scavanged cans. It's not overly safe but it's a good temporary technology http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/stovesdoc/midge/THE_COMPLETE_MIDGE.pdf
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> Japanese style cone kilns for biochar are also quick to assemble, and can be used with tree branches, vines and other misc sources of wood. It helps to have dry material, but this style of biochar maker is more tolerant of wet material than the TLUD oven designs: http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/Wilson-Cone-Kiln
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> Dr Reddy's Good Stove designs are also quick to assemble from cans and other material that you may/may not have easy access to? http://www.goodstove.com/
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> There's also the SODIS method for pasteurizing drinking water. If you have 6 hours of sunlight, you can use a simple fabric filter to get water clear enough and use a plastic bottle and some reflective metal to pasteurize it: http://www.sodis.ch/methode/anwendung/index_EN
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> Keep in mind that the pasteurization temperature of water is lower than the boiling temperature. If the initial water is clean enough, a lot of fuel can be saved just by bringing it up to the right temperature. ?Here's a link to a chart for the temps at which most common pathogens can be killed:
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> http://solarcooking.wikia.com/wiki/Water_pasteurization
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> Kind regards,
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> Erin Rasmussen
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> erin at trmiles.com
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> From: Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Guinto
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 11:16 PM
> To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
> Subject: [Stoves] In search for a stove model for the disaster in the Philippines
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> Dear All
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> Im writing to you all in trying to contribute to the recent series of disasters in my country. A strong typhoon in October, followed by a strong earthquake in Bohol and now a supertyphoon In November in the Visayas region.?
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> I would like to contribute to the ongoing relief operations by way of the stoves that will quickly respond to the trauma of the typhoon victims. I believe that there would already be mature models in our network and there so many, i do not know where to begin and which model is best.?
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> Im in search for a stove model that can be quickly manufactured in a local shop . i have ?a good friend in Cebu City, who has a metal and foundry shop and he is confident that he can bring his shop to a large scale production including stamping the metal parts.?
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> It is a stove that can produce bio char. the bio char i hope to create water filters which the people can make themselves . The clean cookstove making biochar can be a life saving device as it can help people cook their food and produce their clean water while waiting for the relief aids. It should also be one that can be used with wood sticks as most people do not have access to pelletizing or briquetting machines and wood sticks are abundant after the typhoons.?
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> I am almost describing my own holey roket stove that makes bio char however, my model is too heavy, brittle and will take a month before it is ready for use.?
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> Going further, the bio char can also be used to reduce the diseases from the evacuation center. I recently learned how to collect and multiply indigenous microorganisms (IMO) using local materials. It is a liquid fortified with beneficial soil organisms. ?I intend to test it ,along with the bio char in the toilets in the evacuation centers.?
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> There are already several humanitarian groups moving to the disaster areas and i hope to mainstream these technologies in their efforts.?
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> Your advice is most appreciated.?
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> Jed Guinto
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> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:05:50 -0800
> From: "Erin Rasmussen" <erin at trmiles.com>
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> What's the best/fastest way to get those pots to you? Would it be faster for us to donate money so that you could buy them more or less locally?
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> Erin Rasmussen
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> From: Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of reb-kees
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 10:23 PM
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> Dear All &Sanya,
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> Thank you, Sanya, for remembering me and my family in Dumaguete, Negros Oriental. Felipa Beach sustained structural damage during the October storm and earthquake but fortunately survived typhoon Haiyan without any further damage. The Eco-Kalan Project and our partner, the 302nd Infantry Brigade of the Philippines Army, are preparing to deploy six large Eco-Kalan-C each to critical emergency shelters in Central Visayas. From our experience, six Eco-Kalan-C can cook enough food for 1,000 people at mealtime. We are looking at this time for large capacity pots and woks such as the ones we used at the July Approvecho stove camp (40-60 liter capacity); and portable biomass stoves that can hold these cooking vessels and can cook continuously large volumes of food for long periods of time. Do you know who can donate these large capacity cooking vessels and stoves? Thanks,
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