[Stoves] Very interesting Stove (Thailand?)

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I have my chief of staff looking at the video. I'll report back if there is
anything interesting in the discussion.

M

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On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Ronal W. Larson <rongretlarson at comcast.net
> wrote:

> Paul  cc List and Michael:
>
> 1.  I thought you had a good summary.
>
> 2.  I'd like to know more about the insulation - a portion seemed
> combustible. but apparently not.
>
> 3.  Also an interesting set of pots.  Seemed the main cooking utensils sat
> inside a wok.  Heat transfer via conduction; kept pot clean, but no chance
> for a skirt.
>
> 4.  I was surprised that there seemed to be no careful placement of fuel.
>  5.  I could get a translation of the 41 comments - but saw nothing
> useful - except there seemed to be a University connection.
>
> Ron
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>
>  Roberto and all,
>
> I agree that it is an interesting video about a somewhat different
> variation of TLUD stoves.    To save all some time, I give you these notes:
>
> 1.  Yes, probably Thailand, but not clearly indicated.   All dialog and
> text could not be understood, except that it was filmed at a research
> center for ag machinery.
>
> 2.  24 minutes is LOOONG.   I suggest you load it and then see these
> selections:
>
> 3.   Gets interesting about the details of the stove in minutes 6 through
> 10.   You will see a large square metal tin and two concentric cylinders.
> VERY Interesting use of 2 crossing rods at minute 8:30 to space the three
> containers and to support the grate.
>
> 4.  Minutes 13:00 to 17+ show the use of insulation (seems to be ash from
> rice husks) between the outer square can and the next cylinder, including
> how to seal it off (wet ash with rice husks).
>
> 5.  There is no attempt to limit the primary air.    It is free flowing
> all the time.   [IMO, this aspect could be improved, and it seems that the
> developers were rather on their own about the design of the stove.   But we
> know that new experiments and designs can bring progress, and are glad to
> see this TLUD development. ]
>
> 6.  Secondary air enters via several (4 or 6, I think) sets of three holes
> (arranged vertically about 2 cm apart)  in the innermost cylinder (the fuel
> chamber).   The sets of holes are about 5 (?) cm below the top of the fuel
> cylinder, therefore giving some drafting.   Otherwise, there is no riser on
> the unit.   And not concentrator disk.
>
> 7.   Near the end (about minutes 20 and later) you can see the stove in
> operation.   Seems to work nicely.   Apart from measuring the flame
> temperature there is not testing shown in the video.
>
> 8.  If anyone has access to Thai speakers, please confirm or correct the
> above message.
>
> Thank you to Roberto (who is in Chile) for finding this and calling it to
> our attention.   I will consider how to present my comments and the video
> link at my drtlud.com website.
>
> Paul
>
> Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
> Skype: paultlud      Phone: +1-309-452-7072
> Website:  www.drtlud.com
>
> On 11/29/2014 8:47 AM, Roberto Poehlmann wrote:
>
>  This is a very interesting video of a tlud stove (fabrication and
> operation).
>
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YrII8GcOsc
>
>
>
> Roberto
>
>
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