[Stoves] Forestry and fuel

[Ronal W. Larson]

Teddy:

   1.  Thanks for the cite below.  Slide #36 implies that FAO is not doing a very credible job in reporting on charcoal consumption.  Off by a factor of about 100  (that is 10,000% error).   I was pleased to see the FAO report cite by Samer yesterday (given below).  Now I am not so sure.  Can anyone defend the FAO data collection effort on charcoal?

  2.  The slideshow refers to a special 2013 issue of ESD on charcoal.  Looks good, but I haven’t had a chance yet to see if my library carries it for free.  Anyone able to comment on what that issue is saying about deforestation?

3.   Returning to your recent response about your own char-making stoves not being accepted.  It seemed you might have been testing a stove where the char was both made and used in the same stove.  TLUD proponents would say that is not likely to work.  Can you clarify on what type of char-making/using stove you were producing?

Ron


On Jan 13, 2014, at 11:02 PM, Cookswell Jikos <cookswelljikos at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Samer, 
> 
> Thanks for sharing, but if indeed this is fully the case, I wonder why the reduction of deforestation features so heavily on most cookstove marketing pitches. (even mine sometimes!)    
> 
> Further interesting reading that somewhat supports this is a very good presentation done by ICRAF recently, that is aptly titled, "What Happened to the Charcoal Crisis" http://www.slideshare.net/agroforestry/miyuki-iiyamaicrafcharcoal-review2013 
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> It is a very good systematic review of many other woodfuel papers in East Africa. It seems to be that on farm woodfuel is becoming more and more of income generating wood energy source.
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> All the best, 
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> Teddy 
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> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Samer Abdelnour <samer.abdelnour at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
> Just to contribute on the deforestation discussion. A dated (1997) by
> excellent resource by the FAO, which concluded that deforestation
> occurs mainly as a result of pressures for agricultural land, logging,
> and national infrastructure projects, not for cooking.
> 
> http://www.fao.org/docrep/w7744e/w7744e06.htm
> 
> Of course, I applaud efforts to source cleaner, more sustainable fuel.
> Perhaps these should be grounded in location specific challenges (i.e.
> community nurseries), not distorted by general mythologies associated
> with global problems and magic bullets.
> 
> Best,
> Samer
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