[Stoves] Forward: Flame Genie Fire Pellet Pit

[Ronal W. Larson]

Jock et al

   1.  Answering Michael first - if no char, I wouldn’t call it a TLUD.  But I think there will be.

   2.  To Jock.  40 lbs for five hours says they aren’t interested in cooking.  Which is OK if you want a campfire with char output.  This looks somewhat like what Kelpie says she likes - based on the Japanese approach to char-making.  Forget about the lost energy.  

       If they got 10 pounds of char out, then the 30 pounds (about 13.5 kilos) of wood at 15 MJ/kilo gave up about 200 MJoules.  or 40 MJ/hour or about 11 kW.  The solar concentrator discussed recently on this list by Dr.  Seifert is probably less than about 1 kW - and that boils rapidly.

  3.  I am not being critical.  There may be a market here - but not for the majority of this list’s customers.  Nice looking flame, but I’d rather see the secondary air holes a little bit lower to get some draft.  And then some control on primary air.  They could probably get 15 hours without much different a look.

Ron



On Jan 14, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Michael Wittman <michael at blueskybiochar.com> wrote:

> Do you end up with any char after the burn is over?
> 
> Thanks, Michael Wittman
> 
> On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Jonathan P Gill wrote:
> 
>> Friends,
>> 
>> Talk about your basic TLUD design, this is one for sure. 5 hours on 40 lbs of wood pellets?
>> 
>> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200609534_200609534?cm_mmc=Google-pla-_-Outdoors-_-Firepits%20%2B%20Patio%20Heaters-_-15624&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=15624&gclid=CNO2-Ly9-7sCFa9lOgod1B8AdA
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Jock
>> 
>> 
>> Jock Gill
>> P.O. Box 3
>> Peacham,  VT 05862
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