[Stoves] Questions about CDM Methodology AMS.II-G: "Energy efficiency measures in thermal applications of non-renewable biomass"

[Otto Formo]

Dear Candela and Ruy,
 
Yes, 
to switch to LPG (fossil fuel) from open biomass fires, is not directly  contributeing to Climate change, but the Production line and refinement of the Liquid gas, does a LOT.
In the North Sea and Nigeria, they flare off tonnes of CO2, every hour.
 
If you only see this, as an Health issue and in short terms, the contribution from LPG is VERY positive.
BUT the long term effect, can cause a lot of side effects and become the end of mankind.
 
That`s why this cannot be considered under the CDM regime.
 
To avoid any opsticals and discuessions around the CDM topic, you just swith to gasifier units using dry biomass as fuel..................
 
Kind regards
 
Otto F.
 
> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:02:00 +1300
> From: korscha at gmail.com
> To: stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
> Subject: [Stoves] Questions about CDM Methodology AMS.II-G: "Energy efficiency measures in thermal applications of non-renewable biomass"
> 
> Hola Candela,
> 
> The project activity you are talking about involves the switch from
> biomass (a renewable fuel) to LPG (fossil fuel). Arguably, this switch
> is not sustainable. Now, the CDM accepts the concept of Non Renewable
> Biomass (NRB) for the dissemination of improved devices using biomass
> that hypothetically result in less deforestation. To access carbon
> finance, project proponents must develop a story comparing a NRB
> baseline and project scenarios.
> 
> Since the use of LPG is generally less carbon intensive per unit of
> heat delivered than wood or charcoal, some project storytellers argue
> that the switch from NRB to LPG reduce GHG emissions. I was one of
> these storytellers and wrote a project design document (PDD) in
> Morocco 7 years ago that involved the displacement of wood with LPG
> bread ovens. At that time, there was a specific proposed (not
> approved) methodology (should still be somewhere) that allowed the
> NRB-LPG switch. However, the project activity is controversial and did
> not make to the CDM. Since it is common practice for project
> storytellers who fail to comply with CDM requirements to turn their
> attention to the voluntary carbon markets, the NGO I was working with
> looked at voluntary carbon buyers. Typically, the voluntary
> "offsetters" are interested in greening their image so they have to
> tell the story over and over again to their clients. When the story of
> a project is difficult to transmit to the consumers of supposedly
> "carbon neutral" goods or services, finance from carbon offsetting
> fails to reach recipients.
> 
> The story we are discussing is weak but I am sure some will buy it in
> the voluntary carbon markets. Suggest to not focus on the CDM.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Ruy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:43:50 +0100
> > From: Candela de la sota s?ndez <candelasota at gmail.com>
> > To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
> > 	<stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Stoves] Questions about CDM Methodology AMS.II-G:
> > 	"Energy efficiency measures in thermal applications of non-renewable
> > 	biomass"
> 
> >
> > Hello again!
> >
> > I'm using the CDM methodology AMS.II-G: "Energy efficiency measures in
> > thermal applications of non-renewable biomass" and I'm facing some
> > problems.
> >
> >  I don't know if this methodology can be applied to a project which aims to
> > deplace traditional biomass by LPG stoves.
> > The scope and applicability definition don't consider the option of
> > swiching non-renewable biomass use by fossil fuel use, but it is not
> > excluded either.
> >
> > Here is the link to the methodology. I think it is quite ambiguous on this
> > point. If you look at equation 5 (page 6) is MAYBE here where we can
> > introduce LPG consumption.
> >
> > http://cdm.unfccc.int/filestorage/7/m/24G3EKN6PT0QJ1BHRICMYDX97OW8UF.pdf/EB70_repan30_AMS-II.G_ver05.0.pdf?t=NHJ8bXp1bDNufDDA-vLs3oAZbIPBlUqf1vbZ
> >
> > Could anyone help me with this?
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > candela
> 
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