[Stoves] Rebecca Vermeer sent you a video: "Launching Eco-Kalan & Bingka Oven for SUMAPI Dumandan, Zamboanguita, Negros Or., PH, Dec 14-15, 2014"
Paul Anderson
psanders at ilstu.edu
Sat Apr 18 10:56:14 CDT 2015
Rebecca and all Stovers,
Again, a very nice video. This one shows more of the Whirly Pinay,
which to me it the "Star" of the video (but the food is truly
mouth-watering!!). The Whirly Pinay is a TLUD stove made of ceramic.
The best ceramic TLUD that I have seen.
1. I would like more more info about that stove. I am not a
mud/ceramics person, so even basic info is important. Jon and Flip can
better analyze the stove making info. Things like clay types,
thicknesses, firing temperatures, breakage issues, etc.
2. I am impressed by the sizes of the pots that are supported on the
Whirly Pinay. Because of my lack of experience with clay/ceramic, I
worry about the lower pottery breaking and dumping off the full hot pot
on the ground or the cooks. I therefore like better the arrangement
with the oven that is supported by three walls.
3. I would like some comments about the moving of the Whirly Pinay
TLUD into position under the supported oven (or supported pot). It is
heavier than the metal TLUDs, so maybe a sliding "tray" or shelf would
be easier to move? And does the pottery get hot on the outside? Does
it cool rapidly?
4. In some ways it seems like a TChar combustion device, with the
intention to continue to cook with the charcoal (made by TLUD pyrolysis)
in the lower part.
5. The reality that a TLUD makes heat that is sufficiently clean
DIRECT-heat baking in a "black oven" (emissions in contact with the
food, not separated by a heat-transfer wall in a "white oven") is an
important accomplishment that others (Jon and Flip and others) are also
finding to be beneficial. This needs to be more completely documented
and told to all stovers.
Rebecca, your success with the COOKING (which is WHY we are all making
stoves) is wonderful !!!! You and Flip do magic. (The guys mainly do
heat.)
Paul
Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: psanders at ilstu.edu
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: www.drtlud.com
On 4/17/2015 7:01 PM, Rebecca A. Vermeer wrote:
> Introducing Eco-Kalan, Bingka Oven & Whirly Pinay to Lakbay Aral
> Milagrosa, Feb 27, 2015
> https://youtu.be/zNqBGhW8iLY
> Dear Paul, Ron, Jon & Stovers,
> Thank you Paul, Ron, Jon for your questions. I thought it was best
> that I have completed the above video first and the relevant links to
> the photo albums in Google+ and video clips in youtube of the Whirly
> Pinay stoves used in cooking and in baking with the Bingka Oven before
> responding to your emails. Please have a look at the captioned photo
> albums -- I believe some of your questions will be answered there
> and//or you will have more questions. I am in Amsterdam at the
> moment but quite able to reply to your emails. Thank you very Paul
> for your email. I appreciate and share your enthusiasm for the Whirly
> Pinay as poor Pinays can now bake untarnished bingkas and many other
> delicacies using wood.
> Rebecca
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> *From: *"Paul Anderson" <psanders at ilstu.edu>
> *To: *"Rebecca A. Vermeer" <ravermeer at telus.net>, "Stoves and biofuels
> network" <Stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 1, 2015 6:48:45 AM
> *Subject: *Re: Fwd: Rebecca Vermeer sent you a video: "Launching
> Eco-Kalan & Bingka Oven for SUMAPI Dumandan, Zamboanguita, Negros Or.,
> PH, Dec 14-15, 2014"
>
> To all Stovers,
>
> I highly recommend that you watch Rebecca's video (10 minutes). It is:
> 1. Very well made, fast paced, with nice music, and very informative.
>
> 2. CAUTION: It will make you hungry!! Many views of delicious food
> that was prepared with the Eco-Kalan and Bingka Oven.
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> 3. Rebecca's introductory comments (printed below) in this message
> are not in the video, but will help you understand what is being shown.
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> 4. I am also absolutely thrilled by the addition of TLUD heat sources
> under the Bingka Oven!!! The TLUDs are in two sizes, and are made of
> clay/ceramic!! And they can be removed from under the Bingka Oven (as
> should be the case), so any appropriate sized TLUD could be inserted.
> I request that Rebecca tell us more about the making of clay TLUDs and
> the issues of cracking/breaking, how hot the sides became, and about
> the weight (because they need to be picked up and moved for refilling
> / replacement.
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> 5. There are some views at the beginning showing the making of the
> oven. A VERY NICE PRODUCT!!!! I am sure that Jon and Flip can
> relate to the work it takes to make ovens. I hope Rebecca will
> direct us to more information specifically about making of the oven.
>
> To Rebecca, CONGRATULATIONS on your very evident success!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Paul
> Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
> Email:psanders at ilstu.edu
> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
> Website:www.drtlud.com
> On 3/31/2015 10:45 PM, Rebecca A. Vermeer wrote:
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> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:46:14 PM
> *Subject: *Rebecca Vermeer sent you a video: "Launching Eco-Kalan
> & Bingka Oven for SUMAPI Dumandan, Zamboanguita, Negros Or., PH,
> Dec 14-15, 2014"
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> Launching Eco-Kalan & Bingka Oven for SUMAPI Dumandan,
> Zamboanguita, Negros Or., PH, Dec 14-15, 2014
> by Rebecca Vermeer
> <http://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=Ca31yq3uUic&u=/user/ecokalan%3Ffeature%3Dem-share_video_user>
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> AIMS of the Eco-Kalan Project
> To Improve the Health, Environment and Economics of Poor Communities
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> March 30, 2015
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> Dear Friends,
> In the current video, I share with you the exciting developments
> from the partnership between the Eco-Kalan Project with the Negros
> Oriental Visayan Forum, the 79th Infantry Battalion and the 302nd
> Infantry Brigade of the Philippine Army in a livelihood program
> based on the Eco-Kalan and the Bingka Oven.
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> Since the Oct. 4, 2014 demonstration at Felipa Beach on Cooking
> with the Eco-Kalan and Baking with the Bingka Oven to members of
> SUMAPI Dumandan (http://youtu.be/RUYq7i1gQj4 ), we have learned
> and accomplished the following:
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> On December 14 -15, 2014, the Eco-Kalan Project and its partners
> - set up an Eco-Kalan-C kitchen with Bingka ovens fired with wood
> and coconut shell charcoal and a traditional oven fired by wood
> for comparison; and
> - officially launch the Eco-Kalan & Bingka Oven as a livelihood
> program for SUMAPI Dumandan under the Visayan Forum's umbrella.
>
> In reviewing the interviews with SUMAPI members, guests and
> attendees at the launching, I learned about the limitations in the
> supply of coconut shell charcoal; restrictions in the production
> and supply of wood charcoal; and the seemingly unavoidable smoke
> when using wood as fuel for the Bingka oven. Smoke during baking
> can tarnish the appearance and taste of the baked product making
> it unmarketable.. And yet, wood is most often the fuel of choice
> when coconut shell or wood charcoal are not available or when wood
> is free for the picking.
>
> I decided to make a clay stove which can function as a TLUD
> (gasifier) stove in phase 1 of the burn and as a charcoal stove in
> phase 2. That gave rise to the Whirly Pinay-S (2 kg wood capacity)
> and the Whirly Pinay-L (4 kg wood capacity) based on Kelpie
> Wilson's tin can Whirly Girl TLUD (Top Lit Upward Draft) stove.
> Our March 17, 2015 test runs with the large bingka oven using
> firewood in the improved Whirly Pinay (longer secondary air slits)
> produced clean, untarnished bingkas in all the 4 batches.
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> On February 27, 2015 Lakbay Aral (Educational Tour),
> - the Eco-Kalan Project hosted the last of the school year's
> Lakbay Aral luncheon for 150 people. It was on this occasion that
> the Whirly Pinay-L was used to cook breakfast for over 30 people
> who prepared the luncheon. The coming Lakbay Aral video will
> include cooking the breakfast.
> - the Eco-Kalan Project was requested to provide snack and water
> for everyone travelling back to Milagrosa, Sta. Catalina. I
> challenged the SUMAPI Dumandan and Visayan Forum's clients from
> Ayungon to bake 500 muffins using 4 Bingka ovens fired by wood in
> the Whirly-Pinay-S stove; coconut shell charcoal in a small and
> large Eco-Kalan stove; and by LPG in a gas burner. They rose to
> the challenge with enthusiasm and succeeded.
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> On March 8, 2015 Baking Extravaganza,
> - the Eco-Kalan team at Felipa Beach and SUMAPI Dumandan and
> Ayungon Visayan Forum clients baked and ate to their hearts' content.
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> Warm regards,
> Rebecca Arrieta Vermeer
> Eco-Kalan Project in the Philippines
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