[Stoves] Clean coal burning stoves Re: History of clean Chinese stove development.

Sun Sep 20 10:10:49 CDT 2015

Dear Prof. Anderson,

Please contact Camilla at camilla.fulland at primestoves.com.

Prime will have its own production unit soon.

Kind regards
M. Nurhuda
On Sep 20, 2015 9:10 PM, "Paul Anderson" <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:

> Dear Prof. Nurhuda,
>
> Thank you for the detailed answers.   Congratulations on your work.
>
> Sorry that you will not be at the GACC Forum.   Will it be possible for
> your colleagues at Prime to bring your stoves (the standard ones for
> biomass, not the ones with the enlarged holes for coal) so that I could
> purchase one?   Used for the demonstrations is fine.   Other people might
> also want to  obtain one.  Airplane luggage can become free shipping for a
> few units.
>
>  Prof. Anderson
>
> Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
> Skype: paultlud      Phone: +1-309-452-7072
> Website:  www.drtlud.com
>
> On 9/19/2015 8:09 PM, Muhammad Nurhuda wrote:
>
> Dear Prof. Anderson,
>
> We have developed the chemical formula for coal pellet/briquettes at the
> time when the government of Indonesia launched conversion program from
> kerosene to LPG (2010). It was almost everyday LPG stove explosions. Then,
> some people came to me in order to research the coal pellet/briquettes.
> Unfortunately, after the research finished and we we got good results, LPG
> was accepted widely by the people, and the government forgot the coal fuel
> at all.
>
>  Let me answer your questions.
>
> 1. There are no char created. The residue from coal pellet is ash.
> 2. Yes, all pellets are burnt in one run,  batch process generating ash.
> 3. I do not manufacture coal pellet/briquettes. It was only research. Some
> kg samples of pellets I had sent to Dean for test, but I do not know the
> results. No coal pellet left at all by me.
> 4. If there are people interested to manufacture pellet/briquettes coal,
> please contact me. The stoves I use are the same as our stoves, both for
> wood fuel or pellet fuel.
> 5. I will not come to GACC. But our colleagues in Prime will join.
>
> Kind regards
> M. Nurhuda
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> A VERY interesting development!!!
>>
>> 1.  Is there a "char" created?   and is there a sufficiently distinctive
>> transition time at the end of burning the released volatiles?     OR
>>
>> 2.  Is it burning all the way to ash in one continuous run?
>>
>> 3.  Please send more info (about all aspects, from manufacture to further
>> testing and about results if burned in other stoves, etc.).
>>
>> 4.  Will you be marketing the technology, or the equipment, or selling
>> the pellet product from your own operations?
>>
>> 5.  Please consider bringing at least 10 kg in 500 g (approx) packets to
>> the GACC Forum in Ghana in November for distribution of samples that are
>> sufficient for others to test in their stoves.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
>> Skype: paultlud      Phone: +1-309-452-7072
>> Website:  www.drtlud.com
>>
>> On 9/19/2015 5:30 AM, Muhammad Nurhuda wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We have developed coal pellet, in order it is burnable like biomass..
>>
>> Please check the following video.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YXrPyGz1pU
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> M. Nurhuda
>> On Sep 19, 2015 1:48 PM, "Muhammad Nurhuda" <mnurhuda.ub at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We have developed coal pellet, in order it is burnable like biomass..
>>>
>>> Please check the following video.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YXrPyGz1pU
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> M. Nurhuda
>>> On Sep 19, 2015 10:37 AM, "Crispin Pemberton-Pigott" <
>>> crispinpigott at outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Paul
>>>>
>>>> There are a lot more than four stoves that were approved in one year or
>>>> another. Last year alone there were six.
>>>>
>>>> More follow up later. Busy writing.
>>>> Crispin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Seema,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the informative reply.
>>>>
>>>> 1.  Yes, the Mongolian coal burning stoves and project will be quite
>>>> evident at the Ghana Forum.
>>>>
>>>> 2.  I support your recommendation:
>>>>
>>>> I would also recommend any of the 4 stoves that were used in the
>>>> Mongolian intervention to be added to the Alliance’ Clean Cooking
>>>> Catalog <http://catalog.cleancookstoves.org/pages/about>, along with
>>>> any third party test results so we can have the information about the
>>>> stoves’ performance available to our stakeholders.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing will please everyone, but openness to share information should
>>>> be applauded by all.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>>>> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
>>>> Skype: paultlud      Phone: +1-309-452-7072
>>>> Website:  www.drtlud.com
>>>>
>>>> On 9/18/2015 5:29 PM, Seema Patel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Including a belated response regarding the earlier email chains, but
>>>> wanted to be sure the Alliance contributed to the discussion….
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Alliance’s current understanding of the state of technology aligns
>>>> with WHO’s Indoor Air Quality Guidelines
>>>> <http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/141496/1/9789241548885_eng.pdf> which
>>>> recommends that coal should not be used as a household fuel,
>>>> concluding that its combustion in the HH is carcinogenic, containing toxic
>>>> elements not destroyed by combustion. Similarly, the IAQC cites existing
>>>> evidence that shows household use of kerosene can lead to levels of
>>>> particulate matter and other pollutants that exceed WHO guidelines. As
>>>> well, the risk of burns, fires and poisoning, associated with the use of
>>>> kerosene in developing countries is a cause for concern.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.who.int/indoorair/guidelines/hhfc/recommendation_3/en/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.who.int/indoorair/guidelines/hhfc/recommendation_4/en/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Overall, the Alliance supports and promotes a range of technologies,
>>>> innovations and processing that will optimize fuel combustion leading to
>>>> efficiency gains and cleanliness, but we also acknowledge that there are
>>>> tradeoffs between all different fuels and technologies. Rufus Edwards from
>>>> UC Irvine, will be speaking at the Ghana Forum on the panel “No Boundaries:
>>>> household to ambient air pollution” about the Millennium Challenge
>>>> Corporation’s  Ulaanbaatar project, which focused on scaling up more
>>>> efficient coal burning stoves – we welcome participation from the Stoves
>>>> ListServ community in the discussion. I would also recommend any of the 4
>>>> stoves that were used in the Mongolian intervention to be added to the
>>>> Alliance’ Clean Cooking Catalog
>>>> <http://catalog.cleancookstoves.org/pages/about>, along with any third
>>>> party test results so we can have the information about the stoves’
>>>> performance available to our stakeholders.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [image: Global_Aliance_Clean_Cookstoves_blue_v23]
>>>> <http://www.cleancookstoves.org/>
>>>>
>>>> *Seema Patel*
>>>>
>>>> Senior Associate | UN Foundation
>>>>
>>>> *Global Alliance for Clean Cookstoves*
>>>>
>>>> Tel: 202.864.5149   Skype: seema.patel80
>>>>
>>>> <spatel at cleancookstoves.org>spatel at cleancookstoves.org
>>>> www.cleancookstoves.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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