[Stoves] grate effect? (was Re: ND-TLUD Burners at ETHOS -- What Works Best?)

[Tom Miles]

That would be on the “Wish List”. Maybe someone knows of one. Otherwise it’s several visits to the appropriate databases. There would be a lot of work that is not indexed online but I am always surprised when I see scanned references of documents from the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s.  

 

Many of us keep running bibliographies in our own areas of interest. We maintained a list of references for the stoves list 10-20 years ago, before the Partnership for Clean Indoor Air and Global Alliance for Clean Cookstoves, but it was too expensive for us to keep up. I haven’t seen a general bibliography in several years. There are 22 references in the recent “Clean Burning Biomass Cookstoves” (2015) published by Aprovecho Research Center.  Publications from individual projects, like the USDE funded work that was reported at ETHOS, will include references that pertain to their specific topics but those won’t be published for some months. 

 

Tom   

 

From: Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Joseph
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Hi Tom

 

Is there someone who has put together a list of all of the recent publications (peer reviewed and thesis) on improved cook stoves. I have a potential donor who may fund this work but he wanted me to put together all literature to justify the grants.

 

Regards

Stephen

 

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com <mailto:tmiles at trmiles.com> > wrote:

Dave,

Michael Johnson, Berkeley Air, detected that startup surge when measuring black carbon. You should see it in the presentations when they are online. (Berkeley Air Monitoring Group, Michael Johnson: Platform for Integrated Cookstove Assessment)

Tom


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On Thu, Feb 04, 2016 at 09:25:51PM -0700, Ronal W. Larson wrote:
>       7.  “Big” spikes for both CO and particulates - often (usually) appear as the pyrolysis front reaches the bottom.  - But not always. Why?

Maybe this has something to do with the "grate effect" ? Someone on the list has explained before that the pyrolysis front has no fuel to heat and dry at the bottom of the chamber.  Rather, the grate absorbs the heat of the pyrolysis front and radiates it back into the remaining fuel.  That leads to a big increase in woodgas production.  Starting a few minutes before the fuel burns out, my tincanium TLUDs produce a tall flame that touches the pot, leaving a lot of soot.  I believe that is the grate effect at work.

Dave

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