[Stoves] VERY SMALL TLUD Re: NGO is looking for a stove update in production process
Paul Anderson
psanders at ilstu.edu
Mon Jul 25 09:42:01 CDT 2016
Deniz,
First I thank Michael Trevor for supplying most of the answers to you
quesitons (and for the kind endorsement!!).
Your heat needs are SOOOOO small that the amount of wood would very
quite inconsequential. Depending on your situation, I suspect that one
woodworking shop could create sufficient COARSE shavings (such as from a
planer) from wonderfully dry wood. We are talking about a small sack
of good shavings (or wood chips or twig segments or splinters) being
sufficient for a month of shrinking the plastic tubing (estimate,
because it depends on many factors).
The TLUD would be make from tin cans. No need to have a tinsmith make
the TLUD for you from sheet metal.
The only place I wrote about this is in a 2010 presentation for the
informal ETHOS presentations on Friday evening before the conference.
The item is called "From Willie to Richard" And you are interested
in Willie , which is Willie One-Can (as in Willie Wonka and
the Chocolate Factory). Also the Toucan TLUD (two can) by Hugh
McLaughlin is shown. Also there are comments about stoves made with 3
though 10 cans. Richard Boyd made the 10-can stove. I hope that
everyone enjoys that presentation!!! :-):-):-)
http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/andersonethos2010 (and soon to be on
the drtlud.com website)
The Willie One-Can could be a serious heat device for your needs,
Deniz. Or maybe with 2 or 3 cans. I will work with you. Maybe some
others would like to join us on the practical sides of this topic.
So if you want to start, the first question is about what sizes of tin
cans you can obtain? You will only need 1 or 2 of each. But the
sizes are important (diameter and height). Assuming that one end of
each can is still closed.
Paul
Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: psanders at ilstu.edu
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: www.drtlud.com
On 7/25/2016 6:30 AM, Michael N Trevor wrote:
> Dear Deniz
> Paul will be able to get you bell book and candle, however in a nut shell
> you can make you own mini gasifier from tin cans and other stuff. Left
> over charcoal
> can be used however you want, including fuel, biochar or briquettes.
> In fact make a tincanium gasifier cook with it and use the charcoal to
> do your shrinking.
> Google can point you to both home made ones and commercial ones,as
> well as Paul’s own web site.
> www.drtlud.com
> Michael N Trevor
> Marshall Islands
> Pacific Ocean.
> *From:* Deniz Ispaylar [OneDollarGlasses]
> <mailto:Deniz.Ispaylar at onedollarglasses.org>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2016 10:27 PM
> *To:* Paul Anderson <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>
> *Cc:* Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
> <mailto:stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Stoves] NGO is looking for a stove update in
> production process
> Dear Paul,
> thanks for the hint towards very small TLUD micro gasifier. But we are
> somehow more interested in using charcoal as we don`t have a proper
> wood supply where we are based in Malawi. What I mean is that the
> locals cutting down uncontrolled huge areas of forest in order to have
> some wood for their firing. So we decided not to support that even
> when we are not sure where the charcoals comes from…
> But maybe you can convince us that wood is better to use instead of
> charcoal though? I liked the point with the fast ignition of wood a
> lot. How can the made charcoal with TLUD mirco-gasifier be used
> afterwards?
> And where can we buy those mirco-gasifier?
> Regards
> Deniz
> ______________________
> Deniz Ispaylar
> Country Coordinator Malawi
>
> EinDollarBrille e.V.
> Böhmlach 22, Germany
> 91058 Erlangen
> Skype: kla4dj
> T (Ger): +49 178 49 99 738
> T (Mal): +265 88 44 98 976
> deniz.ispaylar at onedollarglasses.org
> <mailto:martin.aufmuth at onedollarglasses.org>
>
> Web and social media:
> www.eindollarbrille.de <http://www.eindollarbrille.de/>
> www.onedollarglasses.org <http://www.onedollarglasses.org/>
> G L A S S E S FO R 150MI L L I O N
> Vertretungsberechtigter Vorstand: Martin Aufmuth, Alex Armbruster,
> Brigitte Weis;
> Vereinsregister: Fürth / VR 200672; UID-Nr.: DE286412852
>
>
>
>> Am 19.07.2016 um 17:55 schrieb Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu
>> <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>>:
>> Dear Deniz,
>>
>> You have asked the correct group for advice. There are several
>> options that you could consider.
>>
>> I will advocate that you consider a very small TLUD (tee-lud)
>> micro-gasifier, and I will assist you if you desire that type of heat
>> source.
>>
>> Please see my website www.drtlud.com for the basics about the
>> technology, but very little about units that are as small as you will
>> desire (but I can assist you about the very small ones.)
>>
>> HOWEVER, these stoves do NOT use charcoal. (actually they make
>> charcoal, but that is a different side of the story). Charcoal is
>> notoriously slow to ignite, which is one of your requirements.
>>
>> I assume that you have already considered using a candle (or a few
>> candles). The very small TLUD micro-gasifiers can provide the
>> amount of heat you need. They are very clean burning even at
>> cookstove sizes, so the tiny TLUD that you need COULD probably be
>> used indoors (depends on room size and ventilation issues).
>>
>> Looking forward to assisting you. You may reply via the Stoves
>> Listserv because some readers are interested in such topics, but
>> eventually for detailled work we would use my personal email address
>> which is psanders at ilstu.edu
>>
>> Paul
>> Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>> Email:psanders at ilstu.edu
>> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
>> Website:www.drtlud.com
>> On 7/19/2016 8:37 AM, Deniz Ispaylar [OneDollarGlasses] wrote:
>>> Dear cooking stoves experts,
>>> I am working for the non-profit NGO OneDollarGlasses
>>> <http://www.eindollarbrille.de/>. We have the mission to set up a
>>> social business in development countries worldwide to provide
>>> *high-quality and affordable glasses* to people in need. The glasses
>>> are produced by locals in these countries. To ensure that the
>>> manufacturing is possible and reliable at any time we have developed
>>> a *currentless production process*.
>>> One part of this process is to *heat* *shrinking* *tubes* with a
>>> *stove* (attachment 1 and attachment 2). For us it seems like that
>>> the current stove which we are using is outdated, not healthy
>>> neither for the manufacturer nor for the nature and inefficient. So
>>> we are looking for some *new technologies of stoves* which we can
>>> implement in our production process. This is the reason why I am
>>> addressing this email to you to get expert-input.
>>> The shrinking tube (attachment 3) is made out of
>>> irradiationcrosslinked Polyolefin and has a *shrinking temperature
>>> of +120°C*. Attachment 4 gives some more information on the
>>> shrinking tubes (unfortunately this is only available in German, but
>>> easy to translate).
>>>
>>> The requirements of the new stove are
>>>
>>> * that we do have a temperature of roundabout *+120°C* somewhere
>>> near the stove
>>> * that the *temperature* should be reached really *fast*
>>> * that the *combustion* last for at least *10* *minutes*
>>> * that we can use *charcoal*
>>> * that the *combustion* is *high* *efficient* and has a
>>> *low*-*emission*
>>>
>>> Maybe there is a stove out there, that suits our needs. :-)
>>> I would be more than happy to get some feedback and/or input and
>>> can`t wait to start into a discussion on how we can improve our
>>> production process.
>>> Warmest regards
>>> Deniz
>>> ______________
>>> Deniz Ispaylar
>>> Country Coordinator Malawi
>>> EinDollarBrille e.V.
>>> Böhmlach 22, Germany
>>> 91058 Erlangen
>>> T +49 178 499 9738
>>> Skype: kla4dj
>>> deniz.ispaylar at onedollarglasses.org
>>> <mailto:martin.aufmuth at onedollarglasses.org>
>>>
>>> Web and social media:
>>> www.eindollarbrille.de <http://www.eindollarbrille.de/>
>>> www.onedollarglasses.org <http://www.onedollarglasses.org/>
>>> G L A S S E S FO R 150MI L L I O N
>>> Vertretungsberechtigter Vorstand: Martin Aufmuth, Alex Armbruster,
>>> Brigitte Weis;
>>> Vereinsregister: Fürth / VR 200672; UID-Nr.: DE286412852
>>>
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