[Stoves] [biochar] biochar production model

[Paul Anderson]

Mike and all,     (sent to Stoves List also because of the Stove focus.  
They reply to their own Listserv.)

Mike wrote:
>
>     if a 5000 ton per year biochar plants costs 3 million dollars USD
>     to build than what do 5000 one ton a year biochar plants cost ?
>
One TLUD residential cookstove produces about 1 kg of good char per day, 
or 365 kg per year.   Three families would make 1 ton of char per year.

TLUD stoves appropriate for this can be purchased for $18 to $30 each 
(delivered, retail cost).   So for 3 stoves, call that $60 to $100 of 
stoves per ton / yr, with good life span (5 yrs?) and low mantenance.

So, $100 times 5000 ton of desired output would cost $500,000 for 15,000 
stoves.  That is 1/6th of the 3 million dollars mentioned.

I am working on a report from the Servals stove project in the Ganges 
delta with 11,000 installed stoves, and growing.  And it did not cost 
even half of that sum because of other factors.

Stay tuned.  Academic results take some time to get released.   But it 
all looks promissing.  (I hope I have my numbers all correct.)

Oh, by the way, the issues of fuel supply, fuel transport costs, and 
operational labor (cooks) and even char collection costs all make the 
numbers look even more favorable.

It would sure be nice and would be appropriate is someone with the 
million dollar budgets for char production would become more interested 
in the TLUD approach.      Oh, the money-managers want to know the 
return on investment.  Sorry, most of the benefits (both financial and 
social) go to the impoverished people who can barely scrape together the 
$15 to $30 to get the stove.  But you can still get the char at a very 
low price and then make money off of that.

Paul

Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
Skype:   paultlud    Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  www.drtlud.com

On 6/14/2016 6:53 AM, Gerald Kutney gkutney at 6esm.com [biochar] wrote:
>
> In my experience, the “black box” technology to produce biochar on an 
> industrial scale is often in the range of $500K to $1M.  However, that 
> often only represents about 10% to 20% of the total project cost, 
> which includes, building, services, product packaging, storage and 
> shipping, biomass handling and processing, environmental controls…  I 
> actually found the $3M price tag to be at the lower end.  I would have 
> thought that an average plant would be $5M to $8M for a 5000 ton per 
> year facility.
>
> Gerald Kutney, Ph.D.
>
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> *From: *<biochar at yahoogroups.com> on behalf of "Stephen Joseph 
> joey.stephen at gmail.com [biochar]" <biochar at yahoogroups.com>
> *Reply-To: *<biochar at yahoogroups.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 7:31 AM
> *To: *biochar <biochar at yahoogroups.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [biochar] biochar production model
>
> Hi All
>
> I am surprised as I designed a 8000t/yr unit for less than$1,000,000 
> excluding any building.
>
> Regards
>
> Stephen
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 2:03 AM, mikethewormguy at aol.com 
> <mailto:mikethewormguy at aol.com> [biochar] <biochar at yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:biochar at yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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>     if a 5000 ton per year biochar plants costs 3 million dollars USD
>     to build than what do 5000 one ton a year biochar plants cost ?
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