[Stoves] Accidental TLUD technique discovery

[Ronal W. Larson]

Andrew:

	Thanks for being the list moderator now for so many years.   

	I have visited Andrew outside London now about three (?) times.  I need to add that this guy knows an enormous amount about everything related to wood and its combustion.  And has a lovely wife and family.

Ron


> On Nov 16, 2016, at 5:03 AM, ajheggie at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> [Default] On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 21:39:44 -0000,neiltm at uwclub.net wrote:
> 
>> Crispin, I'm amazed by your scouting campfire experience, it bears 
>> absolutely no relation to mine, where in both the troops I was in at 
>> different times the fires whether for cooking or the sing song camp 
>> evening fire were completely conventional bottom lit, the latter 
>> sometimes in a tepee construction.  What you are describing, but probably 
>> on a larger scale, seems to be what Paal Wendelbo described and that 
>> inspired him.  It might be interesting to try to discover if old scouting 
>> literature describes making fires this way.  Our cooking was in large 
>> oval cast iron 'dixies' placed on top of sticks aligned in the direction 
>> of the wind hopefully.  
> 
> My experience with the scouts was much as Neil's. Whilst our leaders
> in the early sixties  must have had military experience they knew no
> better. Indeed Tommies were renowned for brewing up their tea over a
> can filled with sand and soaked in petrol.
> 
> I suspect it was because SE England was such an urbanised  area  that
> most people worked in towns and agriculture was not a big feature
> here. Anyway woodland cover, whilst the most in England at 25%, was
> not accessible to the public for foraging, indeed tree felling was
> frowned upon such that when out camping with the scouts we had to be
> surreptitious about felling a birch for the bonfire. Therein was the
> other problem, trying to cook on a fire with small scavenged dead
> twigs and freshly felled birch.
> 
> At home during this period the newly built house had minimal
> insulation, 2" depth of fibreglass wool in the roof and 2" air filled
> cavity in the walls, the only heating was an open coal fire in the
> lounge and a rayburn range on which the cooking was done in winter to
> which was plumbed one radiator in a central hallway. My late sister
> and I would scratch drawings in the frosted condensation inside the
> windows when we woke up on a cold day of which we don't experience the
> likes now.
> 
> My job on coming in from school was to lay the fire with crumpled
> newspaper over which was split kindling from vegetable crates. The
> main fuel on top of this was coal. I never thought of lighting it in
> any other way.
> 
> It was finding Ronal Larson's postings on the internet in the mid 90s
> that got me experiments although I was already involved in charcoal
> making from my woodland work.
> 
> AJH
> 
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