[Stoves] Stoves Digest, Vol 72, Issue 4
Donald Fowler
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Sun Sep 4 11:38:17 CDT 2016
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> 1. Re: Cookstoves Webinar "Cookstove Field Monitoring
> Technologies - latest advances and FAQs " on August 24th
> (Derby, Elisa)
> 2. Business sickness (Teddy Kinyanjui) (Crispin
> Pemberton-Pigott) (Bernhard M?ller)
> 3. Fwd: Why I'm introducing the President today: (Ronal W. Larson)
> 4. Re: PV-battery fans (Re: A J Heggie 3 August) (Traveller)
> 5. Collaboration for Development Updates, July 28 - August 4
> (Collaboration 4 Development)
> 6. Re: Two current articles on stoves and stove projects
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> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 18:59:17 +0000
> From: "Derby, Elisa" <ederby at winrock.org>
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> Subject: Re: [Stoves] Cookstoves Webinar "Cookstove Field Monitoring
> Technologies - latest advances and FAQs " on August 24th
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> Hi Ron,
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> Sorry to hear you won't be able to join this webinar-- it was quite a scheduling feat to find a time that even we and the presenters were all available! That said, the proceedings will be posted after the fact at http://www.pciaonline.org/webinars as usual ***AND*** there is a special opportunity to give input into the information presented this time!
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> As per below, we'll be doing a panel Q&A format, with questions solicited in advance, rather than the usual report-out style with a shorter Q&A at the end. If you have specific questions you'd like the panel to address, please send them to us at moderator at cookstovesandindoorair.org (please don't only reply to the stoveslist-- I can't keep up there!) in the next week or so, and we'll try our best to cover them!
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> Best,
> Elisa
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> Elisa Derby Senior Program Officer
> Winrock International | www.winrock.org
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 13:20:09 -0600
> From: "Ronal W. Larson" <rongretlarson at comcast.net>
> To: Discussion of biomass <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] Cookstoves Webinar "Cookstove Field Monitoring
> Technologies - latest advances and FAQs " on August 24th, Register Today!
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> Moderator:
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> This is on second day of the biochar conference in Corvallis. A number of us Doing both stoves and biochar) would wish for a different time.
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> Ron
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>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Moderator, Cookstoves/Indoor Air <CookStovesandIndoorAir at winrock.org> wrote:
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>> Winrock & U.S. EPA Cook Stoves & Indoor Air
>> U.S. EPA <http://www.epa.gov/iaq/cookstoves/index.html> | Winrock International <http://www.winrock.org/> | Webinar Archive <http://www.pciaonline.org/webinars>
>> <image001.jpg>
>> Everything you wanted to know about?
>> Cookstove Field Monitoring Technologies
>> Latest advances and FAQs
>> <image002.jpg>
>> August 24, 2016
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>> 11:00 AM - 12:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time (EDT)
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>> Field monitoring technologies for cookstoves cover a range of diverse monitoring needs from health and climate monitoring to usage and adoption. They can help you better understand your impacts, and adapt and strengthen your strategies to better meet the needs of customers and donors. They?re also valuable tools for growing sector knowledge around field use and impacts. Significant advances have been made since EPA and Winrock first covered the topic in a webinar 3 years ago <http://pciaonline.org/webinars/advances_in_cookstove_field_monitoring>.
>>
>> You?ve probably heard about these technologies, but have questions about how they are used practically in the field, what skills are required, what type of data you?ll get at the end of their deployment, and how you can use the results of this type of monitoring.
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>> If so ? you?re in luck! REGISTER TODAY! <https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/5011252218682739204> We have assembled a panel of experts on field monitoring across a range of sectors ? including cookstoves ? but also for monitoring water, coldchain and other environmental conservation products and projects. They?re ready to answer as many of your Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) about field monitoring as they can in the time allotted.
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>> During the registration process for the webinar you?ll have a chance to submit questions for discussion, and we?ll select the most commonly asked to present during the webinar. Time permitting, at the end of the webinar we?ll take additional questions from those in attendance. You?ll also hear about the latest advancements in field monitoring technologies, and some examples and case studies of their use in the field to inform programs and business development.
>>
>> Webinar participation is free. For the web portion, a high-speed internet connection is required. Please note that the webinar technology allows attendees to listen to audio through their computer or by phone. Additional log-in information will be provided upon registration.
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>> For more information on this webinar, please contact: moderator at cookstovesandindoorair.org <mailto:moderator at cookstovesandindoorair.org>
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>> Register <https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/5011252218682739204> today for the August 24th webinar
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>> Date and Time: August 24, 2016 - 15:00 ? 16:30 Coordinated Universal Time (UTC)/Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), which is 11:00 a.m. ? 12:30 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time (EDT)
>> About the speakers:
>> Dr. Nithya Ramanathan
>> Dr. Ramanathan is the President and Co-Founder of Nexleaf Analytics. She brings over 20 years of experience as a computer scientist to the development of sensing and analytics applications for global health and the environment, including her work in research and hardware development at Intel and Hewlett-Packard and as an Assistant Research Faculty in Computer Science at UCLA. Dr. Ramanathan's work includes building systems for monitoring air pollution, wildlife conservation, cookstove financing, behavioral interventions, water access and coldchain monitoring around the world. She oversees Nexleaf's Cold Chain monitoring program in 7 countries.
>> 4
>> Ms. Tara Ramanathan
>> As leader of Nexleaf Analytics?s Cookstoves Program for 2.5 years, Ms. Ramanathan focuses on building scalable business models to increase adoption of the cleanest, best-performing cookstoves. In 2016 she co-authored a chapter on how to enable results-based financing through real-time sensors and clean cookstoves in the book Broken Pumps and Promises. She believes data has the power to shift accountability and conversations about cookstove adoption?placing focus on useful stove designs and scalable implementation models?effectively enabling women to adopt life-saving clean energy technologies
>>
>> Mr. Dexter Gauntlett
>> Mr. Gauntlett has spent 13 years working at the nexus of clean energy, international development, and Internet of Things (IoT) in the U.S. and overseas, in the private and non-profit sectors. He is currently Director of Business Development for SweetSense Inc. a leading IoT company. Spun out of Portland State University labs in 2012, SweetSense? technology is a compact low-powered, high resolution data acquisition integrated package for a variety of water, environmental, energy, and infrastructure monitoring applications. Mr. Gauntlett specializes in market research, go-to-market strategy, business development, marketing and program management.
>> 4
>> Dr. Michael Johnson
>> Dr. Johnson is a Senior Scientist at Berkeley Air Monitoring Group. His work focuses on field based assessments of household energy projects, including studies on stove performance and usage, indoor air quality, personal exposure, and health impacts. Dr. Johnson has over 20 publications to his name on household energy and is a co-author of the WHO Indoor Air Quality Guidelines for Household Fuel Combustion.
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>> The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (U.S. EPA) and Winrock International have been engaged in the household energy field for many years, including through coordination of the Partnership for Clean Indoor Air (PCIA) and its 590 Partners working in 117 countries from 2002-2012. Since the integration of PCIA and the Global Alliance for Clean Cookstoves in 2012, Winrock and the U.S. EPA have continued working to increase the exchange of technical information among public and private organizations working in the global household energy and health sectors through local capacity building, targeted technical assistance and field studies and global knowledge sharing. The goal of these activities is to promote effective approaches that lead to increased use of clean, reliable, affordable, efficient, and safe home cooking and heating practices.
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> From: Bernhard M?ller <bs_mueller at gmx.net>
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> Subject: [Stoves] Business sickness (Teddy Kinyanjui) (Crispin
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> Crispin,
> KES 642 million = USD 6.42 million approx. Just to be precise.
> Bernie
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> Bernhard S. M?ller
> Poverty oriented energy solutions
> Eschborn, Germany
> http://www.mueller-solartechnik.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 17:42:40 -0600
> From: Ronal W. Larson <rongretlarson at comcast.net>
> To: biochar <biochar at yahoogroups.com>, Discussion of biomass
> <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Subject: [Stoves] Fwd: Why I'm introducing the President today:
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> Lists (especially members in developing countries)
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> I listened for about 1.5 hours this AM to the live broadcast below - which was still available a few minutes ago (skip 35 minutes ahead). I was impressed by both the program described and the roughly half dozen young Africans who were able to ask questions. We on these lists don?t usually have a way of describing ways that the US can help support young stove and biochar enthusiasts. This below might be a way. Today was only about attendees from Africa, but there are other regions (some below) being run through our State Department. I heard that YALI has 250,000 members. The Americas and Southeast Asia (and maybe there are others) seem much smaller. The video below is only for Africa (I think only 2 countries excluded).
>
> My hope is that those reading this will try to make this program known to eligibles (Age 25-35) - hopefully themselves. Then maybe we can meet when they are accepted (as I think their interests will fit in well).
>
> Ron
>
>
> https://yali.state.gov/yali-network/ <https://yali.state.gov/yali-network/>
> https://yali.state.gov/courses/climate-3/ <https://yali.state.gov/courses/climate-3/>
> https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/07/28/background-fact-sheet-president-s-young-african-leaders-initiative-yali <https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/07/28/background-fact-sheet-president-s-young-african-leaders-initiative-yali>
> https://ylai.state.gov/about-ylai/ <https://ylai.state.gov/about-ylai/>
> https://asean.usmission.gov/yseali/regional-exchanges/ <https://asean.usmission.gov/yseali/regional-exchanges/>
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>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> From: "Emmanuel Odama" <info at mail.whitehouse.gov>
>> Subject: Why I'm introducing the President today:
>> Date: August 3, 2016 at 9:12:22 AM MDT
>> To: <rongretlarson at comcast.net>
>> Reply-To: "The White House" <reply-ff2a10717d6c-15_HTML-2669345-6229366-1188 at mail.whitehouse.gov>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> I come from Uganda -- from a farming community in the countryside where I learned what I know from the farmers I grew up with.
>>
>> When I had the chance to complete my education in agricultural science, the hardest decision I had to make was whether to find a new job or return to my local community and teach them a little bit of what I had learned.
>>
>> More than anything else, I wanted to see improvement in the livelihoods of the farmers that helped me become the agricultural scientist, pastor, and mentor that I am today. So I returned home to the Arua district in Uganda, and spent years working to pass on the knowledge and skills I had gained.
>>
>> My passion is to help bring solutions to the country, and continent, where I grew up. That's how so many of my fellow Africans who are part of the President's Young African Leaders Initiative (YALI) feel too.
>>
>> And that's why I'm so excited to introduce President Obama to my YALI fellows, and to you, at a town hall today.
>>
>> You can tune in at 3:20 pm ET to watch live here. <https://click.mail.whitehouse.gov/?qs=31673022fe788d020fd0e214fa84ed6d943473dc0b2b3d08a961b7cc669742f3235ecdd7e7cee228>
>> As President Obama knows, the African continent is not only in need of transformational leaders, but leaders who will make the deliberate effort to inspire those they lead to take up the mantle -- particularly young leaders, who are looking for seasoned role models to emulate.
>>
>> Thanks to President Obama and the legacy he leaves with YALI, so many of us our are well-poised to do just that.
>>
>> So please join us at the town hall today at 3:20 pm ET to hear President Obama's answers to our questions about the future of young leaders in Africa and around the world. <https://click.mail.whitehouse.gov/?qs=31673022fe788d0269c2dcd763a8fb3806dcd363ee5ced7e03da8eee895a6d86212c7a4c5d635ba6>
>> Thanks for listening to my story,
>>
>> Emmanuel
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>> Emmanuel Odama
>> Arua District, Uganda
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> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:02:16 +0530
> From: Traveller <miata98 at gmail.com>
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> Cc: ajheggie at gmail.com, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
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> Subject: Re: [Stoves] PV-battery fans (Re: A J Heggie 3 August)
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> Nikhil Desai again, in response to Heggie:
>
> 1. Of course a fan-powered stove can be worth somebody's while. An exhaust
> fan is worthwhile for ventilation. Both these have been in use for decades
> in electrified areas, albeit for larger users. But it is such "commercial
> cooking" that, I am willing to wager, has taken off the entire increment of
> food/feed/beverage cooking demand in the developing world (collectively) in
> the last sixty years.
>
> Why, a couple of years ago, I found a strange contraption on the side of a
> store here in my city in India. It looked like a stove but huge, and was
> lying as junk. When I asked, the storekeeper said it was a diesel stove
> from the 1940s. I have never seen a diesel stove before or after. He said
> something about kerosene rationing and how electric fans made it possible
> to use these diesel stoves in the back room kitchen for snacks.
>
> In many geographies (urban and peri-urban), outsourcing the cooking and
> using electric fans - even if not as exhaust, if there are enough windows -
> are the first coping mechanisms. Not that you would catch that from blind
> followers of published statistics.
>
> I am not an engineer, but let me put this out for discussion - combustion
> temperatures and air flows are the most important elements in solid fuel
> cooking, followed by fuel and vessel characteristics.
>
> 2. "How do you decide on those figures from this discussion?" (In response
> to my "do you think woodstoves with PV-battery fans may be able to
> capture >1% of the cooking energy market in a developing country 10 years?")
>
> Well, why not? What would it take to map out the economic geography of
> cooking and claim, "Ah, for those areas that can't be supplied with liquid
> or gaseous fuels, and where PV penetration potential for small battery
> electricity is high, what would a 200 Wp solar system be able to do, and
> what is the total potential market in 10 years?
>
> The food markets are increasingly inter-connected, nationally and globally.
> So are the markets for electric kettles, rice cookers, toasters.
>
> WE the Missionaries of Dung, Straw, Husk, and Twigs from the Church of
> Renewable Biomass can complain, "Oh, that's for the rich; we have taken
> vows of chastity (no fossil fuels) and poverty (no electricity)." The poor
> in the mean time, get rich and start sinning.
>
> Just today the Wall Street Journal has an amazing story - The Rice Cooker
> Has Become a Test of China?s Ability to Fix Its Economy
> <http://www.wsj.com/articles/as-exports-decline-china-looks-inward-for-growth-selling-made-in-china-goods-to-the-middle-class-1470238429>
> . Back 30 years ago, I had computed rice cooker penetration rates in Japan
> and Korea, then derived projections of electricity demand for urban China
> by 2000 using, among other things, rice cookers. (As also clothes washers,
> irons.)
>
> With a million dollar grant, I will calculate gains in life years (DALYs)
> from 1980 to 2010 due to electric rice cookers. Modern coal power is a
> wonderful boon.
>
> I didn't allow for heating milk; had no idea China will become such a huge
> producer and importer of milk. The market for kitchen appliances,
> <http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/indonesia-kitchen-appliances-market-to-grow-at-cagr-16-till-2021-techsci-research-report-588142792.html>
> processed foods, and restaurant meals, has left all the "improved
> woodstoves" at the mercy of stubborn poor. What are GACCers yakking on and
> on for?
>
> Our sin is, we keep on talking "stoves", not "foods", "peoples", "tastes."
> Woodstove programs for the rural poor households have burned the meals.
> They keep poor people poor. (Charcoal, coal and processed wood are
> exceptions).
>
> For a change, we might start talking about service standards, objectives,
> market definitions, and serving the poor instead of saving them. That would
> require thinking of the whole food and cooking "system" as Dr. Kishore said
> in the Up in Smoke news item.
>
> There is probably a niche market for PV-battery woodstoves and also for
> PV-induction cooking.
>
> The question is not "price/demand curve as electricity gets cheaper", but
> rather as electricity gets RELATIVELY cheaper, all user costs considered.
>
> I am going out and venture another guess -- at 7 USc/kWh (tax-inclusive
> average tariff in India) grid electricity, baking bread and making rice
> with electricity is cheaper than with low-quality wood at 14 USc/kg or 30
> USc/kg charcoal (again, average urban price in India). That is on fuel cost
> basis and without credit for convenience and cleanliness that some users
> are likely to prefer.
>
> I don't think electricity price "would have to fall a lot before cooking
> with electricity becomes economic". I have been saying for 20+ years that
> for certain parts of urban Africa, electricity is cheaper than LPG and
> charcoal is not an option. So go electric, solar (water heating), gas
> (large cities), or eat out.
>
> That would still leave about 500 million households in the world reliant on
> solid fuels. What options have the biomass stovers given them yet? (Xavier
> Brandao had the right question.)
>
> Nikhil
>
>
>
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> (India +91) 909 995 2080
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:58 AM, <ajheggie at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> [Default] On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 16:16:50 +0530,Traveller
>> <miata98 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, do you think woodstoves with PV-battery fans may be able to capture
>>> 1% of the cooking energy market in a developing country 10 years? That's
>>> huge, and more than any improved woodstove has in the last 50 years.
>>
>> How do you decide on those figures from this discussion?
>>
>> My inference from recent discussions here was that a small PV
>> solar-battery combination was more likely to be cost effective than a
>> TEG IF it was decided that a fan powered stove was "worthwhile".
>>>
>>> For one, the SE4All campaign is about "universal access" to electricity
>>> (and "clean cooking", whatever that means). And even then, it is becoming
>>> clear that there is a pico-PV battery market for phone, laptop, fan, for
>>> mobile applications or a host of other appliances. Adding another battery
>>> may improve the utilization rates for PV system investments, which then
>>> lower the cost of outages on the grid if there is a grid connection. (I am
>>> betting that at any given time, a fourth of the grid-connected households
>>> in developing countries have a grid failure. No use pumping diesel power
>> in
>>> the grid or generate diesel power if small uses can be taken care of by
>>> batteries.)
>>
>> I come from a country with a well established and reliable grid so I
>> can only but imagine what I might value of the utility of a small
>> amount of electricity. I suggest that powering a smart phone and
>> lighting would be high on that agenda but it would be interesting to
>> see the price/demand curve as electricity gets cheaper, I think it
>> would have to fall a lot before cooking with electricity becomes
>> economic. My cooking is almost exclusively done with electricity but
>> that cost is a very low percentage of my income.
>>
>> AJH
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> From: Xavier Brandao <xvr.brandao at gmail.com>
> To: stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] Two current articles on stoves and stove
> projects
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> Hello all,
>
> The Caravan article Crispin shared is a perfect illustration of the
> distrust for the improved biomass stove technology.
>
> The World Bank CSI is a pragmatic approach I believe, it is an example
> of how a far-from-ideal situation can be assessed fairly (the cookstove
> sector needs work on standards and protocol, it needs building on best
> practices), and how it can be the basis for a call for action. The WB
> asks not to lament, but to work on improving what can be improved.
>
> I am also more of the optimistic kind, and the optimism, we need to
> share it: why do we think biomass cookstoves are still worth working on?
> Why are we still doing what we do despite the previous setbacks?
>
> I feel we should make ourselves ready to answer important, and valid,
> questions such as the ones from The Guardian or the Caravan articles.
> This is advocacy.
>
> I am not sure we are completely prepared to do so.
>
> At Prakti we have interacted with a lot of other stakeholders, other
> social businesses, distributors and NGOs, investors. And sometimes also
> journalists. And sometimes we hear: "oh, another cookstove company" "oh,
> cookstoves have been around for a long time, but haven't really taken
> off". We sometimes face scepticism, worse, defeatism. With almost the
> idea the cookstoves are not necessary. If we believe they are, we need
> to hear and consider their arguments, then to have thought about our
> arguments as well.
>
> First, I feel we might need to think ourselves more as a community or
> sector, with common goals and interests. Healthily competing or rather
> working together on a common issue.
>
> Nikhil said:
>
> "There is no "stove community" but a slum of labs and computers, each
> hut producing its own meal and emissions."
>
> Research efforts are indeed scattered and lack coordination. But I
> believe there is a stove community, and quite an active one.
> Participants and readers of this list have a lot in common. Communities
> are nothing but the sum of all individualities after all. We are
> scattered, but it doesn't mean we cannot work better together. I see a
> lot of exchange and collaboration here. And everyone is trying hard.
>
> And as a community, I feel we have to explain what we do, advocate why
> our cause is important and why our action is still relevant. And if it
> is still relevant. I believe it is. So before being able to answer, we
> must make our own in-depth self-assessment.
>
> This is what the GACC is doing by representing us and lobbying for us,
> there is also the CLEAN network in India, and some other organizations.
> But additionally, we might want to agree on certain things. And this
> stovelist is still the most lively space for exchange.
>
> There is an initiative of French intellectuals called "Manifeste
> convivialiste". They are advocating that, in order to make the world a
> better place, rather than focusing on what they disagree on, they should
> focus on what they agree on.
>
> That could be something like:
>
> "We as a sector are facing challenges: biomass combustion is extremely
> complex, our target markets are challenging. Our efforts are scattered.
> But our mission remains extremely important, and the improved biomass
> cookstoves remain a relevant solution to the global problem of unclean
> cooking."
>
> For example, that is a start. From there, what is the first of these
> challenges, and how to tackle it?
>
> Let say the first and main challenge is the complexity of biomass
> combustion (problem) -> we need more R&D to understand and find ways to
> improve it while making stoves cheaper (solution).
>
> A few persons mentioned in the article seem to agree:
>
> * ?My sense,? Saran said, ?was that the problem needed top-level
> technology.?
> * ?We started out with the dream of a global innovation competition,?
> Rajendra Prasad, a professor at the Centre for Rural Development and
> Technology at IIT Delhi, one of the official stove-testing labs,
> said. ?And now we?re back to mud stoves.?
> * Scientists who spoke to me on cookstove design frequently compared
> their challenges to rocket science. The technical problem is
> surprisingly difficult. Combustion of solid fuels such as wood,
> dung, coal and agricultural waste is far more complex than that of
> gases or liquids such as LPG or diesel. Lighting a wood stove can
> set off many more chemical reactions than burning gas, and the
> emissions process can?t be modelled easily?understanding depends on
> trial and error. Scientists also know less about solid-fuel
> combustion than they do about rocket propulsion. Stoves are not a
> glamorous technology, and have attracted relatively little research.
> A scientist at the Indian Institute of Technology in Delhi told me
> that students are so embarrassed to be working on a stove project
> that they ask to call it by another name.
>
> So, there is a need for a lot of work, and there is a need for top
> engineering and scientific talents. How to attract top talents?
>
> * with R&D budget and attractive wages
> * with good communication about our sector
> * by simply ... going and talking to them. Telling them about our
> work. And trying very hard to build partnerships.
>
> But first we need to assess that we need them, and that R&D is the
> problem. And I have the feeling we believe a bit too much that we are
> gonna sort all these issues by working in our garages on our spare time
> and by organizing stove camps. Don't get me wrong, stove camps are great
> and lead to a lot of information being exchanged. But this is far from
> being enough, we need to be much more ambitious. We need renewed efforts
> and smart ways to attract, develop, and retain talents. At Prakti we
> have put an increased emphasis on that, for example we have an ongoing
> partnership with Engineers Without Borders U.K.
>
> Because today, frankly:
>
> 1. What are really the efforts done on fundamental research on biomass
> combustion for cookstoves? Who is seriously working full-time on
> combustion?
> 2. With what manpower?
> 3. Is this research organized?
> 4. Is it heavily financed as it should be?
> 5. Do we really think this research effort is up to the challenges we
> are facing?
>
> If we answer "No" to the question 2 to 5, then we have a start, and we
> know where next to put our efforts.
>
> Best,
>
> Xavier
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