[Stoves] News: Cooking pollution by propaganda - GACCing India

Traveller miata98 at gmail.com
Fri Jan 6 15:49:46 CST 2017


Crispin:

No news. Emission inventories manufacture emissions, whether or not they
actually show up in air quality anywhere. It is usual deceit to claim
emissions kill. Of course they don't, no more than "fuels kill" or "cooking
kills".

To the extent that polluting exposures occurred largely in confined areas -
home or elsewhere - adoption of cleaner cooking devices and practices can
be expected to appeal to coal users, and health gains will probably be
measurable.

However, with this kind of modeling, without any specific assumption about
"ventilation factor", ambient air quality will not change until there was a
mass shift to cleaner coal stoves. AND no other source of pollutants
"compensated" for such emission reductions from cleaner coal stoves. (E.g.,
dust from construction and transport activities or land-clearing.) AND that
new emissions or natural events - dust storms - did not increase the
aggregate toxicity. (You see, this is why specific PM2.5 chemicals are NOT
identified. Because then fuels can be blamed for deaths and disability,
climate change, or whatever else The Gold Standard folks next want to raise
money for.)

Household coal use in India is concentrated in one state - Jharkhand (which
was previously a part of Bihar). It is widely distributed on bicycles, as
in attached picture. Reminds me of Lilongwe-Blantyre road.

In other states, it is concentrated near coal mines or coal power plants.
(Used to be near railway stations and some industrial sites where coal was
used, because it was easy to pilfer some.)

Now, why would anybody bother with CO2 emissions from poor people? Coal
Rush in India Could Tip Balance on Climate Change
<https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/18/world/coal-rush-in-india-could-tip-balance-on-climate-change.html>,
 Gardiner Harris, NY Times 27 Nov 2014.

Because, per kg of coal, the more efficient the combustion, the more the
CO2 portion of carbon emissions.

Therefore, *under the current method of IPCC inventories, more efficient
solid fuel devices will be strongly discouraged!*!

Nikhil


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On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <
crispinpigott at outlook.com> wrote:

> Dear Darpan
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> As you are working on a problem shared in focus by several other graduate
> students I would like to introduce you to three other teams working on the
> same issue.
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> I will write separately on the contacts.
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> I am very interested that you think that CO from coal-fired cooking stoves
> is a measurable pollution problem anywhere. It might be in the vicinity of
> the fire, but in the ambient air? That would be news.
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> It should be obvious (but may not be) that if the coal were burned with
> extremely low PM and CO emissions, the perception and reality of using coal
> as a domestic fuel would be changed dramatically. For those who are
> interested in getting extremely poor people to reduce their emission of CO2
> annually, a fuel-efficient coal stove would also be of interest.
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> Thank you for noting and providing some numbers on the increase in coal
> use as a domestic fuel in a tropical country. There is often a broad
> assumption that hot countries use biomass exclusively for cooking.  You
> will no doubt be impressed that in some places the portion of people using
> coal for at least some of their cooking approaches 100% in winter.
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> Are you willing to share more specifics on the focus of your research?
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> Many thanks
> Crispin
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