[Stoves] Performance analysis of a top lit updraft (TLUD) gasifier stove, operated with respect to fuel characteristics of multiple types of biomass feedstock

Fri Jan 6 20:24:46 CST 2017

Hi Anil,

Some of them are like that. Not worth much but some you are required to follow. And some are really good. Always nice to be able to cite an ASTM method in the lab report. Looking at the abstract, they give you just enough info to draw you in. Then you find out you can’t afford the equipment or the test is time consuming, or most often, it is not designed specific enough for the project you are doing. I just purchased ASTM D6646 that determines breakthrough of hydrogen sulfide when using biochar as a filter. Special tank of N2+H2S and I need a detector (expensive) and glassware and etc. etc. Just wasted $35 as the equipment is too expensive for the amount of requests for it. It would be an interesting test and one I would like to do. 

Thanks

Frank
Frank Shields
Gabilan Laboratory
Keith Day Company, Inc.
1091 Madison Lane
Salinas, CA  93907
(831) 246-0417 cell
(831) 771-0126 office
fShields at keithdaycompany.com

franke at cruzio.com

> On Jan 6, 2017, at 5:58 PM, nari phaltan <nariphaltan at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Frank,
> 
> Your report comment reminds me of a professor in US in early 1970s who was on mailing list of quite a number of US government departments and got lots of such reports (in those times they were free). He used them to heat his water and house through the biomass heater! He always boasted that this is what he thinks about those reports but got lots of energy out of them!
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Anil
> 
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> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:55 PM, Frank Shields <franke at cruzio.com <mailto:franke at cruzio.com>> wrote:
> Dear Crispin,
> 
> and if Riaz (hi Riaz) is unwilling to do that what then?
> 
> If someone purchases the study and posts it in this group are they going to get a knock on their door a couple days later?
> 
> I have spent 40$ on many reports that have been a complete waste of money and being at such an early stage of  the work thats needed this I am sure will be the same. One question I think you can answer is: ‘fuel characteristics’ what does that mean? Is it the difference between oak chips and corn cobs? OR between high carbon density (Carbon / cu-cm) and low carbon density biomass etc. etc…..
> 
> Both would make for a good study with leading to many future studies down the road. With all the millions being spent comparing the pm2.5 produced between a  ‘3-stone fire to the microwave oven’ I would think this could be made free to the public it being so important in getting the real needed research moving. A lot more research and science is in the future. All stove labs should be very busy this year - should be.
> 
>  Finally a real study leading to a real solution - thanks
> 
> Frank
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> franke at cruzio.com <mailto:franke at cruzio.com>
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> 
> > On Jan 6, 2017, at 4:14 AM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <crispinpigott at outlook.com <mailto:crispinpigott at outlook.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Frank
> >
> > A summary is a good idea. I think we should invite Riaz to do that.
> >
> > Crispin
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Crispin,
> >
> > Thats too bad its not available for free. This titles to be the type of research thats needed and should be the start for a direction we should follow to get to cleaner stoves. Can you sum up your findings and the test methods used?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Frank
> > Frank Shields
> > Gabilan Laboratory
> > Keith Day Company, Inc.
> > 1091 Madison Lane
> > Salinas, CA 93907
> > (831) 246-0417 <tel:%28831%29%20246-0417> cell
> > (831) 771-0126 <tel:%28831%29%20771-0126> office
> > fShields at keithdaycompany.com <mailto:fShields at keithdaycompany.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > franke at cruzio.com <mailto:franke at cruzio.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 6, 2017, at 4:03 AM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <crispinpigott at outlook.com <mailto:crispinpigott at outlook.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Friends
> >>
> >> Riaz replied as follows:
> >>
> >> ++++++++
> >>
> >> The article is uploaded by the ASABE technical library. There is a fee around 40$ to access it.
> >>
> >>
> >> Riaz Ahmad, (PhD candidate),
> >> College of Engineering,
> >> China Agricultural University,
> >> PO Box 50, No. 17 Qinghua Donglu,
> >> Haidian District, Beijing 100083, China.
> >> Ph # 008615650786381
> >> Email: riaz.ch_a at yahoo.com <mailto:riaz.ch_a at yahoo.com>
> >>
> >> +++++++
> >>
> >> Researchers can write to him and request a copy which would be subject to following the normal rules. ‎I cannot guarantee it is available through University library systems.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Crispin
> >>
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