[Stoves] Carbon credits for biochar

[Paul Anderson]

Frank, Stovers, and Charists.

I am responding to Frank's question that is below.

No carbon credits are given for biochar because that is the way the 
current carbon credit system is structured for that Deganga project 
(link is given below).  That is beyond the control of that project.

HOWEVER, I am organizing a similar Champion TLUD stove project in East 
Darjeeling District, West Bengal, India (exactly on the border with 
Bhutan).  That project has new rules about its carbon credits. And I am 
stating that the incorporation of biochar into soils is eligible for 
carbon credits.  I will be presenting this at the ETHOS session Saturday 
evening 28 January. in the Seattle area.

Note:  Carbon credits are essentially an intangible commodity that can 
be linked to specific acts, such as the irreversible, scattered burial 
of appropriate carbon into soil.  Will someone pay to have that 
char-burial (making it unburnable) occur?   THAT is the same as paying 
for voluntary carbon credits.

When (not if) that "unburnableness" of char is possible in a reasonably 
documented manner, would someone pay for that to happen? I think that 
some people will A) pay for the carbon-negative burial of the equivlaent 
of 1 tCO2; or B) pay to have biochar into soil; or C) pay to accomplish 
both A and B; or D) pay as a donation to a real biochar project in an 
impoverished country; or E) pay for any other reason (such as "they like 
Paul Anderson.")

It takes about 250 kg (quarter ton) of dry un-treated (raw) biochar to 
make 1 tonne CO2eq., and that amount of char comes from 1 TLUD stove 
used daily in one household during one year (based on India field data, 
not just laboratory calculations).  I think that such an amount that is 
PERMANENTLY SEQUESTERED should be worth TWO carbon credits, but that 
will need to be debated and resolved.

I intend to place that amount of char on the market for US$20, being the 
price for EITHER one Biochar Credit or two Carbon Credits.  I think that 
is a fair price.   What do you think?  Can the price be higher?

The East Darjeeling project will also be selling single Carbon Credits 
for $10.

Will anyone purchase it (as 2 carbon credits and they do not care about 
the char as long as it is made unburnable) (or as one biochar credit) 
and donate it to a serious biochar project in the local area?

THAT is a serious question.   And I ask it to everyone who is reading 
this email.  $20 for biochar.  And there will be tens of thousands of 
those "Biochar Credits" every year.

Remember, this is BOTH a Biochar Listserv topic (obviously) AND a Stoves 
Listserv topic (as it relates to how to finance the stoves that we want 
to disseminate.)   To be discussed on the lists separately.

I will be discussing this further, providing information as fast as I 
can.  I will see your responses, but I have work to do and will let 
others lead the discussions / debates.     (Please be sure that all 
discussants have read the Deganga TLUD report.   Otherwise, the above 
statements and their comments will not make sense.)

Paul

Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
Skype:   paultlud    Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  www.drtlud.com

On 1/8/2017 11:08 PM, Frank Shields wrote:
> Thanks Paul,
> I searched for the Deganga study and found it to be interesting. One 
> statement in the report i do not understand:
>
> "3. The produced TLUD char cannot generate credits if it is burned by 
> the household or used as biochar for soil amending.”
>
>
> “cannot generate credits if it is burned by the household” - thats 
> makes sense.
> “or used as biochar for soil amending”? - that makes NO sense.
>
> Amazing number of hurtles that you must have overcome to set the 
> program in motion.
>
> http://www.drtlud.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/TLUD-Case-Study-Deganga-2016-09-30.pdf
>
> Thanks
>
> Frank
> Frank Shields
> Gabilan Laboratory
> Keith Day Company, Inc.
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>
>
>
> franke at cruzio.com <mailto:franke at cruzio.com>
>
>
>
>> On Jan 8, 2017, at 8:43 PM, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu 
>> <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> Deganga study
>
>
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