[Stoves] ETHOS 2017 agenda and logistics

[Ronal W. Larson]

Adam et al:

	I respond only because I seem be the main spokesperson (on this list - not in the ISO space) for the WBT.  I agree with you on the need for discussion. I have been changing my Sunday 10 minute time allotment to put in a few ideas on the WBT.  

	Two requests for you and other users of WBT 4.2.3 (which is found at http://cleancookstoves.org/technology-and-fuels/testing/protocols.html <http://cleancookstoves.org/technology-and-fuels/testing/protocols.html>):

	1)  Can you (anyone) report on how well the WBT has supported your own internal testing.  Can you think of any approach better than heating/boiling water to come up with fuel consumption comparisons between stoves?

	2)  You don’t include char-making in your instate products - but it would seem logical to do so - since doing so would seem to save time and possibly greatly reduce the costs of your heater operations;  can you (every user of the WBT 4.2.3 test) comment on whether you think the “denominator equation” (which I am trying to save) makes sense?  And why or why not?

	I look forward to seeing you (and Fred Colgan?) at ETHOS.

Ron

> On Jan 23, 2017, at 9:57 PM, adam at instove.org wrote:
> 
> I think a discussion of what the WBT is, how it is conducted, how the results are used (why they matter) as well as some of the criticisms and answers to these criticisms by practitioners, perhaps during Stoves 101 (I've invited a lot of stove newbies this year) would help all of us as a sector to frame the discussion. 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] ETHOS 2017 agenda and logistics
> From: Andrew Heggie <aj.heggie at gmail.com <mailto:aj.heggie at gmail.com>>
> Date: Mon, January 23, 2017 10:15 am
> To: "Derby, Elisa" <ederby at winrock.org <mailto:ederby at winrock.org>>
> Cc: Xavier Brandao <xvr.brandao at gmail.com <mailto:xvr.brandao at gmail.com>>, Discussion of biomass
> cooking stoves <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org <mailto:stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>>
> 
> On 23 January 2017 at 17:43, Derby, Elisa <ederby at winrock.org <mailto:ederby at winrock.org>> wrote:
> > Hi Xavier,
> > The ETHOS agenda is participant-led; all of the talks on the agenda are there because the presenter submitted an abstract. There is no WBT discussion on the agenda because no participants proposed it as a topic. If any participant attending ETHOS would like to lead a discussion on the WBT, there are available slots during the Saturday Open Space sessions-- sign-up for those are at the event.
> 
> Thanks for the reply to Xavier Elisa, we'll have to see if the offer
> gets taken up.
> 
> I hope all you going to ETHOS have an illuminating discussion.
> 
> Andrew
> 
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