[Stoves] Poor indoor air quality caused by a stove kills 4 on Mt Everest

Nikhil Desai ndesai at alum.mit.edu
Thu Jun 1 01:19:17 CDT 2017


Michael:

Thank you. In fact, I was visiting the small islands of Vanuatu in part to
advise on a solar home systems project proposal. It was just around then
that I found battery torches with LED lights in the Port Vila market for
about $6-20 and also got a free solar battery charger from the local
wireless phone company (battery-to-battery transfer, so should've been
useful for any battery application).

Solar lanterns had been around for some 20 years, and solar LED lanterns
had been talked about for some ten years. But this was my commercial proof
-- even two rechargeable 1.5 V batteries could do the job. (A Li-ion
battery was better, and LED reduced the size requirement of a CFL. Solar
was not key, battery and electronic lighting were.)

Within a few weeks, I began designing, with the help of David Stein (cc'd
here), what was probably the first "solar LED lanterns" or rather a
"pico-PV battery" (for lighting and phone charging) for any government.

I had then felt "the lighting problem is solved" and that "the wi-fi
revolution will drive small-scale electrification".  And advocated
large-scale nation-wide roll outs in another country or entire regions in
the world.

It all came to nought, except for a small grant for Haiti earthquake
relief.  For complicated reasons.

Which is why I am deeply skeptical of the GACC propaganda that all that has
to be done is publish some international standards and donors would open up
their purses, buy Tier 4 biomass cookstoves by the millions.

I am now betting on PV induction cooking and motorized kitchen appliances.
Maybe solar wood chopping for gasifiers and such.

Nikhil


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Nikhil Desai
(India +91)909 995 2080
*Skype: nikhildesai888*

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:35 AM, Michael N Trevor <mntrevor at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Have you ever tried to step over people, find the matches, find the
> lantern,  open it and light it in total darkness.
> Fortunately many now have solar flick the switch.
>
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Nikhil Desai <pienergy2008 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dr Karve:
>>
>> Were the kerosene lamps kept on all night for safety?
>>
>> Until 1966 or so, I frequently stayed in unelectrified villages for weeks
>> at a time. But I never noticed kerosene lamps being on all night. Then a
>> few years ago, wandering about in Pacific Islands, I saw that many people
>> kept kerosene lamps on all night. This was on islands where kerosene was
>> brought maybe once or twice a year at a cost of ~$3/liter. When I asked,
>> they said light kept animals away and kept adults from stepping on
>> children.
>>
>> Nikhil
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Nikhil Desai
>> (India +91) 909 995 2080 <+91%2090999%2052080>
>> *Skype: nikhildesai888*
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Anand Karve <adkarve at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Crispin,
>>> your post reminded me of a study that we conducted about 20 years ago in
>>> a village that did not have electricity. We had installed improved stoves
>>> with chimneys in that village and monitored the indoor air pollution in the
>>> house. During daytime, when the cooking was going on, the pollution level
>>> was quite low but in the night it rose. There were theories that the
>>> particulate matter that rose up with the hot air, settled down in the
>>> night, causing the high reading of the particulate matter in the night.
>>> Later we found out that the nocturnal air pollution was caused by the crude
>>> kerosene lamps (a bottle full of kerosene, with a wick stuck into the lid
>>> of the bottle) which were kept burning throughout the night.
>>> Yours
>>> A.D.Karve
>>>
>>> ***
>>> Dr. A.D. Karve
>>>
>>> Chairman, Samuchit Enviro Tech Pvt Ltd (www.samuchit.com)
>>>
>>> Trustee & Founder President, Appropriate Rural Technology Institute
>>> (ARTI)
>>>
>>
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