[Stoves] How Can Blockchain Technology Help Fight Air Pollution

Nikhil Desai pienergy2008 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 1 18:08:20 CDT 2017


Crispin:

Whose target, for what service standard and what objective.

The argument that Tier 5 cookstoves would miraculously eliminate all unsafe
PM2.5 exposures and infer quantifiable health benefits to current
generation is not intelligent.

Environmental health turned into such fundamentalism is .. well, we know
what fundamentalist cults do.

Nikhil


On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <
crispinpigott at outlook.com> wrote:

> Dear Darpan
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> Targets matter.
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> I was reading something last night saying that LPG emits, for a cooking
> stove (size not stated) 0.33 mg/minute. I have separately seen, for India,
> a claim for Indian LPG emitting 8 mg/MJ delivered to the pot. I guess we
> can work backwards how much that is per minute for a 2 kw fire and a
> typical 65% efficiency.
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> The new WHO tier for the cleanest stove group is Tier 5, and their single
> box model running backwards has set a healthy emission rate max at 0.2
> mg/minute. That means LPG cooking stoves fail to reach Tier 5.
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> I think it is fair to ask what the emission rate for cooking food is. Food
> emits all sorts of PM2.5. It seems to me the chance of someone getting a
> non-electric stove to achieve Tier 5 emissions rate is pretty slim, unless
> it is burning coal. I know of only two stoves that emit less than 0.2
> mg/minute and they both burn coal and they are both putting out far more
> than 2 kW.
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> It is an interesting world.
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> Crispin
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> Darpan:
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> Composition and ingestion profile of PM2.5 matter.
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> Even then, there are serious policy issues for regulation of natural and
> anthropogenic PM2.5 emission sources by location and by wind patterns.
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> And of course, doubts about associational evidence drummed up by rather
> dubious lumping of non-comparable studies. In India, just look up Sarath
> Guttikunda source apportionment studies for several cities, some of them
> more than once. Not all PM2.5 are captured by the current air quality
> monitoring stations nor by the current continuous emission monitoring
> stations.
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> That said, there is a significant hope that data collection via Blockchain
> could wreak a havoc with the current theology of so-called "public
> health".  Instead of cooking up deaths and disease out of air - pardon the
> pun - EPA, WHO, IHME may have to deal with real concentration data. Disease
> data and emission data would be another issue; I think Kirk Smith pointed
> out about a year ago that urban air quality improvements in China are more
> likely to come from the residential and small user sector rather than from
> coal-fired power plants.
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> I am paraphrasing what I remember, but this has profound implications for
> regulatory philosophy and market potential for clean coal combustion
> technologies that can be mass-implemented within five years for tens of
> millions of users worldwide. There is always electricity and gas, but
> China, South and Central Asia -- wherever there is a significant heating
> demand in households, commercial and small industrial sectors - are all
> ready for a technological revolution for solid fuels, including coal.
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> To be anti-coal and ignoring this market potential "to clean the
> available" (as Kirk Smith might put it) is to be anti-poor. This is why I
> call "clean fuels" essentially an elitist, even a neo-imperial, bandwagon.
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> Nikhil
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> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Darpan Das <darpandasiitb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Interesting Article
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> https://media.consensys.net/how-can-blockchain-technology-
> help-fight-air-pollution-3bdcb1e1045f
> <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.consensys.net%2Fhow-can-blockchain-technology-help-fight-air-pollution-3bdcb1e1045f&data=02%7C01%7Ccrispinpigott%40outlook.com%7C52b88cb5b22e490de16708d521702cb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636451688020609125&sdata=A3C5mmY9cgPPcvvPD%2FIO5dtUuMJt7gJ0MEt0JRlxqgQ%3D&reserved=0>
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> Regards
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> Darpan
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> --
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> Darpan Das
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> PhD Student
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> Centre for Environmental Science and Engineering
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> IIT Bombay
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> Powai, Mumbai 400076
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