[Stoves] News: Dublin deaths from "renewable energy" - wood and peat heating

Sat Dec 8 21:28:58 CST 2018

Dear LH

Can you tell us something specific about coal combustion and the rules?

I have heard about people getting gas connections without gas. Is it related to that?

From May 2019 it will be illegal to burn unprocessed coal in Ulaanbaatar in spite of that city having the most advanced coal stoves designed in a purpose-built research facility.  There is a distance between the rule makers and the product they are ruling.

Unfortunately the mania about not burning the only fuels most people can afford is not very well informed.

I think the most sensible rules and product approval system is in New Zealand where they are very tolerant of products that are clean burning, no matter how it is done.  Their standard has been in place for several years – perhaps 10.  They have approved products and fuels, but also a rule that anything that is as clean is permitted.

The situation in Montreal is different in that they were ‘scared’ into passing something on an urgent basis and got into problems afterwards with public opinion.  It was enthusiasm misinformed on the basis that fuels have inherent, not incidental emissions. It is a confused situation and that available knowledge is not being shared far enough.

We are witnessing a failure to communicate.
Crispin

From: Stoves <stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org> On Behalf Of lh cheng
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2018 6:56 PM
To: Nikhil Desai <ndesai at alum.mit.edu>; Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Subject: Re: [Stoves] News: Dublin deaths from "renewable energy" - wood and peat heating

It is a test, test  by some ruling elite, how much can people endure, how many lies can they make through. If they declare the ownership of the water, air, then they can declare the ownership of everybody's very life.

Several days ago, people got arrested for burning coals. and some people is forbidden to raise sheep outside of their house, northern China.

China is different from the other part of the world? No. the same thing is happening throughout the world.

Everything is about truth. They are targeting ordinary people. if they've got the ownership of the air and water, then they will become god of human being, that's their ultimate dream.

And they will succeed in that. and the end times will come.  which will prove that they are not god of water or air, according to Revelation chapter 16.

Nikhil Desai <pienergy2008 at gmail.com<mailto:pienergy2008 at gmail.com>> 于2018年12月9日周日 上午12:45写道：
Basically an argument against EU's Renewable Energy Directive which, in its climate hysteria, treats wood pellets and peat as carbon-neutral fuels. Following Gary Fuller in the Guardian Pollutionwatch: wood burning is not climate friendly<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fenvironment%2F2018%2Fmar%2F01%2Fpollutionwatch-wood-burning-is-not-climate-friendly&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbdd0ef5db45f4aa054ff08d65d696027%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636799104490605066&sdata=ih2FFZnFhpM7qSSe7wLHmcG0XgVVJXZtkJdHwze3N0w%3D&reserved=0>, 1 March 2018, which is rather silly, looking at only CO2 emissions, not all carbon emissions, and dismissing reuptake by photosynthesis.

Dublin is a city of 1.3 million people.  Chunshui Lin, et al., Extreme air pollution from residential solid fuel burning<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nature.com%2Farticles%2Fs41893-018-0125-x.epdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbdd0ef5db45f4aa054ff08d65d696027%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636799104490605066&sdata=2WBm%2FtUwHpzArbWyLSmAku6WlAxQrIrVJbQLknTV4Mw%3D&reserved=0>, Nature Sustainability, September 2018 claim that "only a few households (<13%) that burn biomass for heating (especially peat) could cause recurring extreme pollution events, influencing the overall air quality in the city."

That is enough for Gary Fuller to write in the Guardian Pollutionwatch: wood and peat burning brings return of air pollution to Dublin<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fenvironment%2F2018%2Fsep%2F27%2Fpollutionwatch-wood-and-peat-burning-brings-return-of-air-pollution-to-dublin&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbdd0ef5db45f4aa054ff08d65d696027%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636799104490605066&sdata=Z%2FxHAsI7n6%2Bu3fQ1vuvVkNOUQRgayx6%2BRJnlJvm4bHs%3D&reserved=0> 27 September 2018.

Combustion practices matter. The primary research here (Lin et al.) perpetuates the lie of emissions being an inherent property of the fuel by using same emission factors for a fuel type regardless of fuel chemistry and combustion method, and then without regard to the building design, exhausts, fenestration.

No exposures were estimated, so no death tally was baked. But if emissions mean exposures, surely exposures mean death.

Air quality experts are welcome in a regulatory debate, along with engineers, architects, fuel and stove marketers. Absent such debate, people are condemned to these environmental health zealots.

Nikhil

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