[Stoves] FW: New York Times: Toxic Smoke Is Africa’s Quiet Killer. An Entrepreneur Says His Fix Can Make a Fortune

Cookswell Jikos cookswelljikos at gmail.com
Sat Dec 15 03:00:16 CST 2018


Along this thread of fuel supply - for those of you who enjoy reading about
charcoal production in Africa - this recent paper makes for some great
weekend reading.

Predicted growth of smaller urban areas and associated higher demand for
charcoal will provide substantial opportunities for rural income
generation, most likely leading to shifts in producers and production
scales. Rather than transferring existing formal approaches, which
marginalise rural stakeholders, small urban areas provide opportunities to
develop equitable production systems, with potential to deliver sustainable
energy and rural development.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X18303243?via%3Dihub

One of the authors keeps this very good blog about the same updated every
now and then as well
https://charcoaldiaries.wordpress.com/2015/04/13/debunking-charcoal-myths-part-1/



Teddy Kinyanjui










On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 5:47 PM Anderson, Paul <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:

> Crispin,
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> Tom Price and others at Inyenyeri can answer better than I can.   Tom does
> read this Listserv (I think.).
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> Cooking with good TLUD stoves (Mimi Moto and others) saves fuel (fuel
> savings mean less cutting of wood, even if it is farm-grown or in the
> wild).
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> Additionality is that the households would not be doing this savings if
> they could not get the stoves, and the stoves are supplied by the project.
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> I see no objections to how this project functions.  My reservations are
> about the financing for reaching the many millions needing good stoves.
> But we know that getting stove projects started takes much money.
> Examples include some that are starting and others that have shifted into
> more stabilized production costs:
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> Burn in Kenya ---- Many millions at the start.  Now seems to be stabilized
> for production and business.  (not counting much money for the design and
> testing)
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> Inyenyeri -----   $12 million and now has 5000 TLUD stoves   (not counting
> the substantial investment to get the Mimi Moto stove designed, tested, and
> into production)
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> Rocket stoves -----  Years and much money at Aprovecho and the business
> efforts, including by SSM in china.
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> Champion TLUD  -----  Development work by Anderson and Servals, but with
> some millions by atmosfair to establish the carbon credit program
> (somewhere around 35,000 stoves).
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> Prime and Prof. M. Nurhuda  ---  Substantial, but I do not know the numbers
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> SNV in SE Asia  -----   LOTS of expenditures.
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> Solar cookers, alcohol stoves, and even LPG stoves are backed by
> substantial time and money.
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> Anyone can add to this list (or disagree with me).
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> But the BIG issue is financial sustainability with quality stoves.   And
> how much are the improved stoves actually helping the people is substantial
> ways (substantial is not defined here).  I will have more on this by the
> time of ETHOS in late January.
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> Paul
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> Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD
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> Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP
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> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu       Skype:   paultlud
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> Phone:  Office: 309-452-7072    Mobile: 309-531-4434
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> Website:   www.drtlud.com
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> *From:* Stoves <stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org> *On Behalf Of *Crispin
> Pemberton-Pigott
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:36 PM
> *To:* Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <
> stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Stoves] FW: New York Times: Toxic Smoke Is Africa’s Quiet
> Killer. An Entrepreneur Says His Fix Can Make a Fortune
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> Dear Paul
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> I was discussing this with someone off list and they made the following
> observation, which seems relevant. They asked:
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> Is Inyenyeri solving a non existent problem?
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> The question is relevant because there are not forests left in Rwanda. The
> cutting of the remaining national forest has been stopped (securing the
> habitat of the mountain gorillas, mainly).  All wood comes from farmers
> that grow trees as a crop. This applies as well to the charcoal trade which
> is legal and sustainable.
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> Where is the wood coming from? As I understand the project when I reviewed
> it, the wood is brought to the pelleting house by people who trade it on a
> discounted mass basis for pellets. The rural community is therefore doing
> the foraging. They have to get wood somehow to cook, but when they do, they
> can take it to the processing centre and get bags of pellets in return – no
> money involved.
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> In town, the pellets are sold. The town pellets come from the discounted
> exchange in the rural area.
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> So…does the project still work this way?  If so, how is a carbon credit
> being calculated? There are no forests to “save” so the collection of wood
> is sustainable.  Isn’t some unsustainable fraction required for CDM credits
> to apply? Plus additionality (look it up).
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> I think it would be helpful if the project financing model were explained
> in a way that helped us to know how to replicate it.
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> Much appreciated.
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> Crispin
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