[Stoves] A call to stop using the WBT

Ronal W. Larson rongretlarson at comcast.net
Mon Jan 29 09:42:10 CST 2018


Anh  (adding list as cc)

	Thanks for new information.  

	I’m glad I found the right “Anh”.   To list members interested in TUDs - I recommend visiting Anh’s “GreenGen” corporate site below.

	More below.


> On Jan 28, 2018, at 11:36 PM, Anh Nguyen <ntanh72 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Dear Ron,
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> Yes, some of our end users use the char to put back to soil. Normally they mix the char with pig or chicken wastes, leave it for some days before putting into the field as fertilizer.
	[RWL:   Excellent that they are making this addition.  Adding urine seems “always” positive (can maybe add too much).

> The general feedback is positive, but we have not done any detail measurement of harvest change yet.
	[RWL:  I predict a pleasant surprise - especially as a reason for buying a TLUD.  If/when you get the data, I hope you can tell us how much more rapidly the sales price is recouped.
	If there are any climate-oriented founders reading - this looks like a worthy low-cost test.  There will not be any need for putting the char in the ground - and Anh can probably identify more than one family using “his” char as biochar.

Ron
	
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> Anh
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> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 1:46 AM, Ronal W. Larson <rongretlarson at comcast.net <mailto:rongretlarson at comcast.net>> wrote:
> Mr.  Anh  cc list
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> 	If your company is at http://www.greengenstove.com/index.php/en/ <http://www.greengenstove.com/index.php/en/>, I believe this list would benefit greatly from hearing more of your experience with TLUDs.  In particular, has any char been placed in soil?  If so, what increased growth results?
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> 	If so also - congratulations on your awards from SNV and GACC.
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> Ron
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>> On Jan 26, 2018, at 12:57 AM, Anh Nguyen <ntanh72 at gmail.com <mailto:ntanh72 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Dear Crispin,
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>> What I meant is that without considering char will reduce char-making stove efficiency, miss out some usable energy that the stove can actually produce with the char, and under-evaluate of the stove. 
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>> Anh
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>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <crispinpigott at outlook.com <mailto:crispinpigott at outlook.com>> wrote:
>> Dear Anh
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>> What do you mean by ‘devaluing?
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>> Thanks
>> Crispin
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>> So now by removing all char, would it be miss-leading too, in another direction?
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>> Also, by removing all char produced, it will obviously devalue all char making stoves, although the original intention might not be anti char-making stoves, the result is clearly unfavorable.
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>> Anh
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