[Stoves] Celebrate! First-ever international standard for laboratory testing of cookstoves published.

[Harold Annegarn]

Dear Paul, Andrew and list

I would like to add my voice to a request for coal stoves (home cooking and
heating) to be added back to the discussion topics for stove list.

I agree with Andrew's comments that the diversion into climate change was
way off topic and should not be part of this list. But the fact that such
abuse occurred is not to my mind valid reason to blacklist the entire
domain of coal stoves. There are are of the world where coals (of various
types) are the dominant energy carrier, and the techniques for clean
burning stoves, whether coal or modern biomass, rely on the same underlying
principles of physics, chemistry and industrial design.

Please do not allow populist sentiment against coal as a  source of long
term climate pollution detract from the near-term necessity to burn it as
cleanly as possible until the longed for utopia when we all live in a
pollution free planet, with no war, hunger or inequality (or smelly
domestic combustion fuels!).

Best regards
Harold


Harold Annegarn
Associate Professor, School of Geo and Spatial Sciences,
North-West University, Potchefstroom
Associate Professor, China Agricultural University, Beijing
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 at 20:14, Andrew Heggie <aj.heggie at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 at 18:12, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>
> > But I will disagree with Andrew's recent comment:
> >
> >
> > However coal burning space heating appliances are not a topic for this
> list any more than discussing hydronic or hot air central heating systems.
> >
> >
> > My disagreement is not about coal vs biomass on this Listserv, but is
> about the enargy needs (cooking and room heating) of impoverished people
> being the true purpose of this listserv.      Crispin';s work with coal in
> those difficult circumstances is of great interest to me (and to others, I
> am sure.)
> >
> > We even have interest in issues about LPG stoves as long as the
> discussion is about developing socieities (and not about LPG for backyard
> grilling, etc.)
>
> Fair comment Paul and we do see some discussion on these fossil fuels
> but it isn't strictly in the [stoves] mission statement and often
> leads to  arguments. I'll tolerate discussing anything that helps
> disseminate information to help people in need but not if it leads to
> arguments on climate change where there are better places for that.
>
> Tom Miles will be the final arbiter on that.
>
> Andrew
>
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