[Stoves] The Economist

Ronal W. Larson rongretlarson at comcast.net
Sun Sep 9 19:31:06 CDT 2018


Norbert:  cc list

	I couldn't learn much about the two instruments you mention below.  But I sense they are not appropriate for those who are trying to improve cookstoves that have to saleablefor less than $50 (better $25).  As someone who does testing, any simple low-cost test systems for CO and PM2.5 you can recommend for small stoves ?

Ron


> On Sep 9, 2018, at 10:15 AM, Norbert Senf <norbert.senf at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ha, ha, it is not the "feds" that was the worry. The comment came from a meeting, that included regulators, where the discussion turned to the new mandatory on-site testing requirement for PM for domestic installations in Germany. The German regulation was made contingent on the development of mobile PM testing equipment, which they now have (Wohler 500, Testo 380). The Americans at the meeting noted that this could never be implemented in the U.S. because you would need to issue bullet-proof vests for the inspectors ;-)   .......N
> 
> On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Nikhil Desai <ndesai at alum.mit.edu <mailto:ndesai at alum.mit.edu>> wrote:
> Norbert:
> 
> You reminded me of a movie ~1970/2 about illegal distilleries in parts of Appalachia. The US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms -- the synergistic confluence of public interest - were known as "the Feds", as was the FBI.
> 
> What struck me was the smoke from wood burning in backyard stills.
> 
> No wonder the northeast electric utility engineers I worked with called the EPA as "the Feds", using language similar to that of the hooch makers of rural Tennessee (who had lost their lands to the Federal government when TVA was created in the 1930s.)
> 
> I still cannot tell if WHO is a hooch maker or BATF-style kitchen kops.
> 
> An old colleague moved to Montreal ten years ago; used to work on clean air and climate policy with me. I will ask him about the stove change out. In US, the problem isn't the guns of the Feds but resistance of state and local governments to interference by the EPA, science running amok with political steroids. Just as with GACC.
> 
> Nikhil
> 
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> Norbert Senf
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